Saturday, September 15, 2007

7 reasons why Roman Catholicism Cannot Save a single soul.

I. The Roman Catholic priest do not have the authority to forgive sins

A. Forgiveness is the exclusive right of God
Mar 2:7 Why doth this man thus speak blasphemies? who can forgive sins but God only?
Rom 9:15 For he saith to Moses, I will have mercy on whom I will have mercy, and I will have compassion on whom I will have compassion.
Rom 9:16 So then it is not of him that willeth, nor of him that runneth, but of God that sheweth mercy.
Psa 130:3 If thou, LORD, shouldest mark iniquities, O Lord, who shall stand?
Psa 130:4 But there is forgiveness with thee, that thou mayest be feared.
Before anything else we see that God is Sovereign over the entire process of forgiving sins. No sin can be truly forgiven without His authority and agreement. If priest can at all divinely forgive they must have God’s specific permission.
B. The office of the Apostles ceased
Act 1:22 Beginning from the baptism of John, unto that same day that he was taken up from us, must one be ordained to be a witness with us of his resurrection.
Heb 2:4 God also bearing them witness, both with signs and wonders, and with divers miracles, and gifts of the Holy Ghost, according to his own will?
1Co 15:8 And last of all he was seen of me also, as of one born out of due time.
Typically Roman Catholics claim the apostolic authority to forgive sin. But do they have this authority? They can not be apostles since apostles were first eye-witnesses of Christ ministry, they would have to perform miracles. But Paul claims to be the last of the Apostles. Therefore the priest and Bishops could not be apostles.
C. The Priest and Catholic Bishops are not qualified to be biblical pastor/Bishop/elders
1Ti 3:1 This is a true saying, If a man desire the office of a bishop, he desireth a good work.
1Ti 3:2 A bishop then must be blameless, the husband of one wife, vigilant, sober, of good behaviour, given to hospitality, apt to teach;
1Ti 3:3 Not given to wine, no striker, not greedy of filthy lucre; but patient, not a brawler, not covetous;
1Ti 3:4 One that ruleth well his own house, having his children in subjection with all gravity;
1Ti 3:5 (For if a man know not how to rule his own house, how shall he take care of the church of God?)

Act 14:23 And when they had ordained them elders in every church, and had prayed with fasting, they commended them to the Lord, on whom they believed.
Tit 1:6 If any be blameless, the husband of one wife, having faithful children not accused of riot or unruly.Tit 1:7 For a bishop must be blameless, as the steward of God; not selfwilled, not soon angry, not given to wine, no striker, not given to filthy lucre;
Tit 1:8 But a lover of hospitality, a lover of good men, sober, just, holy, temperate;
Tit 1:9 Holding fast the faithful word as he hath been taught, that he may be able by sound doctrine both to exhort and to convince the gainsayers.
Tit 1:13 This witness is true. Wherefore rebuke them sharply, that they may be sound in the faith;
Tit 1:14 Not giving heed to Jewish fables, and commandments of men, that turn from the truth.
One question, which ironically is never asked, is if Catholic priests actually qualify as New Testament ministers. Surprisingly, no. First of all New Testament Pastors/bishops have to be family men who have monogamous marriages and possibly children, and they must run their household well. Catholic priest are always single and are never to have a family. The priest can be celibate and they have at times been fornicators, homosexuals and child molesters yet they are only truly punished for excluded because of marriage.
1Ti 4:1 Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils;
1Ti 4:2 Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron;
1Ti 4:3 Forbidding to marry, and commanding to abstain from meats, which God hath created to be received with thanksgiving of them which believe and know the truth.
Secondly many priest fail to live up to the New Testament standard due to their drinking. The Priest are encouraged to take the Mass daily. They make sure that juice is highly fermented and the ritual is for the priest drink all of the remaining wine if it is not finished off by the congregation. This leads the majority to occasions of drunkeness and develops alcoholism. But the New Testament is clear that ministers should be sober.
Act 14:23 And when they had ordained[chosen/voted] them elders in every church, and had prayed with fasting, they commended them to the Lord, on whom they believed.
Another issue is that the New Testament to be elected by the congregation which Catholic priest are not. Not to mention the pastor must not be given to Jewish fables, which is exactly what the apocrypha is and ultimately the origin of the doctrine of purgatory.
D. They have the wrong priesthood. (all born-again Christians have the true priesthood)
1Pe 1:1 Peter, an apostle of Jesus Christ, to the strangers scattered throughout Pontus, Galatia, Cappadocia, Asia, and Bithynia,
1Pe 1:2 Elect according to the foreknowledge of God the Father, through sanctification of the Spirit, unto obedience and sprinkling of the blood of Jesus Christ: Grace unto you, and peace, be multiplied.
1Pe 2:5 Ye also, as lively stones, are built up a spiritual house, an holy priesthood, to offer up spiritual sacrifices, acceptable to God by Jesus Christ.
1Pe 2:9 But ye are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people; that ye should shew forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvellous light;
1Pe 2:10 Which in time past were not a people, but are now the people of God: which had not obtained mercy, but now have obtained mercy.
Peter speaking to the saints told them they were the New Testament priesthood. Therefore, Roman Catholic priest are alternative competitors.
II Catholic Baptism is false.
A. Baptism is a transliteration of Baptizo the proper translation is immersion
907 baptizo {bap-tid'-zo}
from a derivative of 911; TDNT - 1:529,92; verb
AV - baptize (76), wash 2, baptist 1, baptized + 2258 1; 80
1) to dip repeatedly, to immerse, to submerge (of vessels sunk) 2) to cleanse by dipping or submerging, to wash, to make clean with water, to wash one's self, bathe 3) to overwhelm ++++ Not to be confused with 911, bapto. The clearest example that shows the meaning of baptizo is a text from the Greek poet and physician Nicander, who lived about 200 B.C. It is a recipe for making pickles and is helpful because it uses both words. Nicander says that in order to make a pickle, the vegetable should first be 'dipped' (bapto) into boiling water and then 'baptised' (baptizo) in the vinegar solution. Both verbs concern the immersing of vegetables in a solution. But the first is temporary. The second, the act of baptising the vegetable, produces a permanent change. When used in the New Testament, this word more often refers to our union and identification with Christ than to our water baptism. e.g. Mark 16:16. 'He that believes and is baptised shall be saved'. Christ is saying that mere intellectual assent is not enough. There must be a union with him, a real change, like the vegetable to the pickle! Bible Study Magazine, James Montgomery Boice, May 1989.
B. The Baptized cannot be infants since they must:
a. Repent
Mat 3:7 But when he saw many of the Pharisees and Sadducees come to his baptism, he said unto them, O generation of vipers, who hath warned you to flee from the wrath to come?Act 2:38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.
As you can see the New Testament clearly links baptism with the act of repentance, this is an act that infants can not perform.
b. Believe
Mar 16:16 He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.
Act 8:37 And Philip said, If thou believest with all thine heart, thou mayest. And he answered and said, I believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God.
Faith/belief is demanded for baptism to be properly performed. Once again this is something an infant cannot do.


c. Be orthodox (trinitarian)
Mat 28:19 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:
Act 19:2 He said unto them, Have ye received the Holy Ghost since ye believed? And they said unto him, We have not so much as heard whether there be any Holy Ghost.
Act 19:4 Then said Paul, John verily baptized with the baptism of repentance, saying unto the people, that they should believe on him which should come after him, that is, on Christ Jesus.
Act 19:5 When they heard this, they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus.
Baptism must be done to those who are orthodox disciples and believe in the triune Godhead. Infants cannot do this either.
C. Water cannot save
Act 1:5 For John truly baptized with water; but ye shall be baptized with the Holy Ghost not many days hence.
Act 10:44 While Peter yet spake these words, the Holy Ghost fell on all them which heard the word.
Act 10:45 And they of the circumcision which believed were astonished, as many as came with Peter, because that on the Gentiles also was poured out the gift of the Holy Ghost.
Act 10:46 For they heard them speak with tongues, and magnify God. Then answered Peter,
Act 10:47 Can any man forbid water, that these should not be baptized, which have received the Holy Ghost as well as we?
Act 10:48 And he commanded them to be baptized in the name of the Lord. Then prayed they him to tarry certain days.
1Pe 3:21 The like figure whereunto even baptism doth also now save us (not the putting away of the filth of the flesh, but the answer of a good conscience toward God,) by the resurrection of Jesus Christ:
The idea of baptismal regeneration is false. The act of being immersed into water has no effect on the soul. Salvation is brought about by grace through faith alone. This is a prerequisite to baptism, so to seek salvation at baptism is almost entirely a different ritual.
D. The grace of God is received through faith not works
Rom 5:1 Therefore being justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ:
Rom 5:2 By whom also we have access by faith into this grace wherein we stand, and rejoice in hope of the glory of God.
Eph 2:8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:
Eph 2:9 Not of works, lest any man should boast.
Once again the grace of God is not limited to baptism, instead it depends upon the faith of those who have received the gospel. It specific does not come to us through man-made acts/rituals.
In the final analysis, if Baptism is not done at all according to the New Testament then is it Christian baptism. If Roman Catholics are not biblically baptized then did they ever enter Christ’s church? I am afraid not.
Eph 4:5 One Lord, one faith, one baptism,
III. Catholic Mass is false
A. The elements were never supposed to change and Jesus was physically present at the first communion.
Mat 26:26 And as they were eating, Jesus took bread, and blessed it, and brake it, and gave it to the disciples, and said, Take, eat; this is my body.
Mat 26:27 And he took the cup, and gave thanks, and gave it to them, saying, Drink ye all of it;
Mat 26:28 For this is my blood of the new testament, which is shed for many for the remission of sins.
Mat 26:29 But I say unto you, I will not drink henceforth of this fruit of the vine, until that day when I drink it new with you in my Father's kingdom.
Act 2:42 And they continued stedfastly in the apostles' doctrine and fellowship, and in breaking of bread, and in prayers.
Most Catholic apologist acknowledge that transubstantiation did not occur at the first Lord’s Supper. Yet if it did not originally occur when does the New Testament say it did?


B. Jesus Ascended into heaven where He will remain until the 2nd coming
Act 1:9 And when he had spoken these things, while they beheld, he was taken up; and a cloud received him out of their sight.
Act 1:10 And while they looked stedfastly toward heaven as he went up, behold, two men stood by them in white apparel;
Act 1:11 Which also said, Ye men of Galilee, why stand ye gazing up into heaven? this same Jesus, which is taken up from you into heaven, shall so come in like manner as ye have seen him go into heaven. Jesus went to heaven alive, the scripture says absolutely nothing regarding him having to rip off his flesh and bring it to the earth as a sacrifice. There is absolutely nothing about priest who could do the magic trick of turning bread into his body. If they could do this then why not gather a man sized loaf filled with wine and take a small army of priest and turn them into Christ!
C. Jesus only made one eternal sacrifice for sin
Joh 19:30 When Jesus therefore had received the vinegar, he said, It is finished: and he bowed his head, and gave up the ghost.
Heb 9:11 But Christ being come an high priest of good things to come, by a greater and more perfect tabernacle, not made with hands, that is to say, not of this building;
Heb 9:12 Neither by the blood of goats and calves, but by his own blood he entered in once into the holy place, having obtained eternal redemption for us.
Heb 9:13 For if the blood of bulls and of goats, and the ashes of an heifer sprinkling the unclean, sanctifieth to the purifying of the flesh:
Heb 9:14 How much more shall the blood of Christ, who through the eternal Spirit offered himself without spot to God, purge your conscience from dead works to serve the living God?
Heb 10:10 By the which will we are sanctified through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ once for all.
Heb 10:11 And every priest standeth daily ministering and offering oftentimes the same sacrifices, which can never take away sins:
Heb 10:12 But this man, after he had offered one sacrifice for sins for ever, sat down on the right hand of God;
Heb 10:26 For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins,
Heb 10:27 But a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries.
Heb 10:28 He that despised Moses' law died without mercy under two or three witnesses:
Heb 10:29 Of how much sorer punishment, suppose ye, shall he be thought worthy, who hath trodden under foot the Son of God, and hath counted the blood of the covenant, wherewith he was sanctified, an unholy thing, and hath done despite unto the Spirit of grace?
Heb 10:30 For we know him that hath said, Vengeance belongeth unto me, I will recompense, saith the Lord. And again, The Lord shall judge his people.
Heb 10:31 It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God.
The greatest blasphemy of the masses is that it insinuates that Christ never finished his work on the Cross and in Stead of reigning in victory he is still tortured day night for our sins. This is practically a satanic statement. When the priest parade their crucifix’s as if Jesus were still dead, it blasphemes his resurrection. The Bible is clear Christ made only one sacrifice for sins, he accomplished salvation in one act. His death was in the past and He is the reigning sovereign LORD! The LIVING GOD! If they are not careful the Blasphemy of death will be avenged by the Lord himself.

Cannabalism is ungodly
Gen 9:4 But flesh with the life thereof, which is the blood thereof, shall ye not eat. The whole idea of consuming literal human flesh is an abomination before the Lord and it always has been.

IV. The Pope is False
A. Peter was not a pope
Gal 2:11 But when Peter was come to Antioch, I withstood him to the face, because he was to be blamed.
1Pe 5:1 The elders which are among you I exhort, who am also an elder, and a witness of the sufferings of Christ, and also a partaker of the glory that shall be revealed:
1Pe 5:2 Feed the flock of God which is among you, taking the oversight thereof, not by constraint, but willingly; not for filthy lucre, but of a ready mind;
1Pe 5:3 Neither as being lords over God's heritage, but being ensamples to the flock
Peter was not considered infallible and his philosophy of ministry was not to rule over people much less the world. Peter would have never been the pope. Neither does the Bible mention Peter having the ability to confer apostolic powers to anyone.
A. The Pope can replace Jesus for salvation
Isa 45:21 Tell ye, and bring them near; yea, let them take counsel together: who hath declared this from ancient time? who hath told it from that time? have not I the LORD? and there is no God else beside me; a just God and a Saviour; there is none beside me.
Isa 45:22 Look unto me, and be ye saved, all the ends of the earth: for I am God, and there is none else.
Isa 59:16 And he saw that there was no man, and wondered that there was no intercessor: therefore his arm brought salvation unto him; and his righteousness, it sustained him.
Joh 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.
Act 4:12 Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved.1Ti 2:5 For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus;


V. The Worship of Mary is false
A. Mary was a sinner in need of a Savior
Luk 1:47 And my spirit hath rejoiced in God my Saviour.
Luk 8:20 And it was told him by certain which said, Thy mother and thy brethren stand without, desiring to see thee.
Luk 8:21 And he answered and said unto them, My mother and my brethren are these which hear the word of God, and do it.
Many of the catholic doctrines of Mary are Mythological bunk. The New Testament contradicts these stories which were made up about Mary to confuse her with the Messiah.
B. Jesus fulfilled all his earthly obligations to her
Joh 2:4 Jesus saith unto her, Woman, what have I to do with thee? mine hour is not yet come.
Joh 19:26 When Jesus therefore saw his mother, and the disciple standing by, whom he loved, he saith unto his mother, Woman, behold thy son!
Joh 19:27 Then saith he to the disciple, Behold thy mother! And from that hour that disciple took her unto his own home.
Jesus fulfilled all obligations to His Mother and owes her nothing.

C. We may not make graven images to anyone
Deu 4:16 Lest ye corrupt yourselves, and make you a graven image, the similitude of any figure, the likeness of male or female,
Deu 5:8 Thou shalt not make thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the waters beneath the earth:
Deu 5:9 Thou shalt not bow down thyself unto them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me,
Deu 5:10 And shewing mercy unto thousands of them that love me and keep my commandments.
Mat 4:8 Again, the devil taketh him up into an exceeding high mountain, and sheweth him all the kingdoms of the world, and the glory of them;
Mat 4:9 And saith unto him, All these things will I give thee, if thou wilt fall down and worship me.
Mat 4:10 Then saith Jesus unto him, Get thee hence, Satan: for it is written, Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, and him only shalt thou serve.
Act 10:25 And as Peter was coming in, Cornelius met him, and fell down at his feet, and worshipped him.
Act 10:26 But Peter took him up, saying, Stand up; I myself also am a man
Rev 19:10 And I fell at his feet to worship him. And he said unto me, See thou do it not: I am thy fellowservant, and of thy brethren that have the testimony of Jesus: worship God: for the testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy.
1Jo 5:21 Little children, keep yourselves from idols. Amen.
The Bible is clear that we should not give any form of worship to anyone but God, not Angels or apostles.

D.
The Queen of Heaven is an abomination to the Lord
Jer 7:18 The children gather wood, and the fathers kindle the fire, and the women knead their dough, to make cakes to the queen of heaven, and to pour out drink offerings unto other gods, that they may provoke me to anger.
Jer 7:19 Do they provoke me to anger? saith the LORD: do they not provoke themselves to the confusion of their own faces?
Jer 7:20 Therefore thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, mine anger and my fury shall be poured out upon this place, upon man, and upon beast, and upon the trees of the field, and upon the fruit of the ground; and it shall burn, and shall not be quenched.

Jer 44:18 But since we left off to burn incense to the queen of heaven, and to pour out drink offerings unto her, we have wanted all things, and have been consumed by the sword and by the famine.
Jer 44:19 And when we burned incense to the queen of heaven, and poured out drink offerings unto her, did we make her cakes to worship her, and pour out drink offerings unto her, without our men?
Jer 44:20 Then Jeremiah said unto all the people, to the men, and to the women, and to all the people which had given him that answer, saying,
Jer 44:21 The incense that ye burned in the cities of Judah, and in the streets of Jerusalem, ye, and your fathers, your kings, and your princes, and the people of the land, did not the LORD remember them, and came it not into his mind?
Jer 44:22 So that the LORD could no longer bear, because of the evil of your doings, and because of the abominations which ye have committed; therefore is your land a desolation, and an astonishment, and a curse, without an inhabitant, as at this day.
Ave ave, ave, Maria! Ave, ave, Maria! In heaven, the blessed thy glory proclaim, On earth, we thy children invoke thy fair name.”Immaculate Mary #37
Hail holy Queen, enthroned above, O Maria!… Turn then most gracious Advocate, O Maria!” Hail Holy Queen enthroned Above #38
“Hail Queen of Heav’n the ocean Star, Guide of the wand’rer here below!
Tossed on life’s sea, I claim thy care, save me from peril and woe. Mother of Christ, Star of the Sea, pray for wand’rer, pray for me.” hymn 72vrs.1 Hail Queen of Heaven Parish Mass book and Hymnal In accordance with New Revised Liturgy Catholic Publishing Company NY(1967)

E. Unrepentant idolators will never make it into heaven.
1Co 5:11 But now I have written unto you not to keep company, if any man that is called a brother be a fornicator, or covetous, or an idolater, or a railer, or a drunkard, or an extortioner; with such an one no not to eat.
1Co 6:9 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,
1Co 6:10 Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.
Gal 5:19 Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness,
Gal 5:20 Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies,
Gal 5:21 Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God.
Rev 21:8 But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.
VI. Those who have blasphemed God’s Word will be condemned
Deu 4:2 Ye shall not add unto the word which I command you, neither shall ye diminish ought from it, that ye may keep the commandments of the LORD your God which I command you.
Deu 12:28 Observe and hear all these words which I command thee, that it may go well with thee, and with thy children after thee for ever, when thou doest that which is good and right in the sight of the LORD thy God.
Deu 12:32 What thing soever I command you, observe to do it: thou shalt not add thereto, nor diminish from it.
Pro 30:4 Who hath ascended up into heaven, or descended? who hath gathered the wind in his fists? who hath bound the waters in a garment? who hath established all the ends of the earth? what is his name, and what is his son's name, if thou canst tell?
Pro 30:5 Every word of God is pure: he is a shield unto them that put their trust in him.
Pro 30:6 Add thou not unto his words, lest he reprove thee, and thou be found a liar.
Mat 4:4 But he answered and said, It is written, Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God.
Mat 5:17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.
Mat 5:18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.
Mat 5:19 Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.
Mat 5:20 For I say unto you, That except your righteousness shall exceed the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, ye shall in no case enter into the kingdom of heaven.
Luk 16:17 And it is easier for heaven and earth to pass, than one tittle of the law to fail.

Mat 15:8 This people draweth nigh unto me with their mouth, and honoureth me with their lips; but their heart is far from me.
Mat 15:9 But in vain they do worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men.
Rev 22:18 For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book:
Rev 22:19 And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.
Catholics add their teachings to Gods word, books to God's word and deny the inerrancy of the Bible, falsely translate the Bible and deny it's core doctrines.

VI. Good works cannot save you
Luk 18:10 Two men went up into the temple to pray; the one a Pharisee, and the other a publican.
Luk 18:11 The Pharisee stood and prayed thus with himself, God, I thank thee, that I am not as other men are, extortioners, unjust, adulterers, or even as this publican.
Luk 18:12 I fast twice in the week, I give tithes of all that I possess.
Luk 18:13 And the publican, standing afar off, would not lift up so much as his eyes unto heaven, but smote upon his breast, saying, God be merciful to me a sinner.
Luk 18:14 I tell you, this man went down to his house justified rather than the other: for every one that exalteth himself shall be abased; and he that humbleth himself shall be exalted.
Rom 11:6 And if by grace, then is it no more of works: otherwise grace is no more grace. But if it be of works, then it is no more grace: otherwise work is no more work.

Gal 1:3 Grace be to you and peace from God the Father, and from our Lord Jesus Christ,
Gal 1:4 Who gave himself for our sins, that he might deliver us from this present evil world, according to the will of God and our Father:
Gal 1:6 I marvel that ye are so soon removed from him that called you into the grace of Christ unto another gospel:
Gal 1:7 Which is not another; but there be some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ.
Gal 1:8 But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.
Gal 2:16 Knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the law, but by the faith of Jesus Christ, even we have believed in Jesus Christ, that we might be justified by the faith of Christ, and not by the works of the law: for by the works of the law shall no flesh be justified.
Gal 2:17 But if, while we seek to be justified by Christ, we ourselves also are found sinners, is therefore Christ the minister of sin? God forbid.
Gal 2:18 For if I build again the things which I destroyed, I make myself a transgressor.
Gal 2:19 For I through the law am dead to the law, that I might live unto God.
Gal 2:20 I am crucified with Christ: neverthless I live; yet not I, but Christ liveth in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me.
Gal 2:21 I do not frustrate the grace of God: for if righteousness come by the law, then Christ is dead in vain.
Rom 3:19 Now we know that what things soever the law saith, it saith to them who are under the law: that every mouth may be stopped, and all the world may become guilty before God.
Rom 3:20 Therefore by the deeds of the law there shall no flesh be justified in his sight: for by the law is the knowledge of sin.
Rom 3:21 But now the righteousness of God without the law is manifested, being witnessed by the law and the prophets;
Rom 3:22 Even the righteousness of God which is by faith of Jesus Christ unto all and upon all them that believe: for there is no difference:
Rom 3:23 For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;
Rom 3:24 Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus:
Rom 3:25 Whom God hath set forth to be a propitiation through faith in his blood, to declare his righteousness for the remission of sins that are past, through the forbearance of God;
Rom 3:26 To declare, I say, at this time his righteousness: that he might be just, and the justifier of him which believeth in Jesus.
Rom 3:27 Where is boasting then? It is excluded. By what law? of works? Nay: but by the law of faith.
Rom 3:28 Therefore we conclude that a man is justified by faith without the deeds of the law.
Essentially we can’t depend on our own righteousness


But don’t Catholics believe in Christ?
A: Acknowledging Jesus is not saving faith
Mat 7:21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.
Mat 7:22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
Mat 7:23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.
Even if the catholics claim miraculous power if they do not follow Gods Word they are not christian
Jam 2:17 Even so faith, if it hath not works, is dead, being alone.
Jam 2:18 Yea, a man may say, Thou hast faith, and I have works: shew me thy faith without thy works, and I will shew thee my faith by my works.
Jam 2:19 Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble.
Jam 2:20 But wilt thou know, O vain man, that faith without works is dead?
Joh 10:27 My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me:

But don’t Catholics ministers preach the gospel?
A: How can they?
1. How can they believe in God when they don’t follow His Word?
2. How can they believe Jesus is Lord when He has to listen to Mary?
3. How can they believe in the virgin birth when they deny that Jesus was born naturally?(the immaculate conception teaches Jesus floated through the womb)
4. How can they believe in the incarnation when they argue that Mary was born sinless and therefore Jesus was incapable of being tempted?
5. How can they believe that Jesus suffered under Pontius Pilate when they blame the Jews for Jesus’ death?
6. How can they believe that Jesus was a high priest when they give that honor to the Pope?
7. How can they teach that Jesus meant to save us from our sins, when they argue he really meant to ensnare the devil? (the ransom theory)
8. How can they be justified by faith alone when they teach to do so would send us to hell?(Council of Trent)
9. How can they believe in the resurrection when they refuse to let Jesus off the cross?
10. How can they believe in the ascension when they believe the priest have his body and blood at every mass?
11. How can they believe in the resurrection when most people will still be in purgatory if Christ comes back? How can they be in communion while still in purgatory?
12. How can they believe in the Holy church when no one on earth is a saint?
13. How can anyone be forgiven of sin when everyone on earth never has any assurance of salvation?
14. How can Jesus comeback when there is no rapture?
15. How can they believe in a kingdom in heaven when the Catholic Kingdom is in Vatican city Rome?
So how can we believe that Roman Catholicism preaches the Gospel?

Can a Catholic be saved?
Yes!

Rev 3:20 Behold, I stand at the door, and knock: if any man hear my voice, and open the door, I will come in to him, and will sup with him, and he with me.
Rev 3:21 To him that overcometh will I grant to sit with me in my throne, even as I also overcame, and am set down with my Father in his throne.
Rev 3:22 He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches
2Pe 3:9 The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance..

If Catholics would repent of their sins and place their faith in Christ alone as their real Savior and Real Lord then can be really saved!
You may have been “born” or “grew up” Catholic but you too can be a “born-again” saint! You would not be a slave any longer, instead you would be an adopted child of God.
Gal 4:4 But when the fulness of the time was come, God sent forth his Son, made of a woman, made under the law,
Gal 4:5 To redeem them that were under the law, that we might receive the adoption of sons.
Gal 4:6 And because ye are sons, God hath sent forth the Spirit of his Son into your hearts, crying, Abba, Father.
Gal 4:7 Wherefore thou art no more a servant, but a son; and if a son, then an heir of God through Christ.
Reject your man made rulers and find salvation in the Son of God Jesus Christ!
Joh 10:27 My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me:
Joh 10:28 And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand.

24 comments:

Stephen said...

Matt,
Concerning your comment that priests must be single and thereby are never allowed to have a family you are incorrect. Pope John Paul II, during his reign, opened the doors to the "ministry". I will grant you that this is actually a very small door because to pass through a man must first have been ordained as an Anglican (Episcopal) priest and then express a desire to convert to Catholicism. There were to priests installed within the last year by the Archdiocese of Louisville as benefactors of this edict.

Stephen

Pastor Matt Singleton said...

We will see how long this will last under Pope Benedict.
Though the anglican priest is unbiblical in and of itself. It would be interesting if the Anglican lesbian priest are brought up for ordination to the catholic church!
This is only an aberation to draw Anglicans under Papal Rome.
Rome's major concern is not the chastity but the inheretance which stays with the vatican.
Matt

Timothy said...

Found it!

Ah, the Doctinal Dance

"I. The Roman Catholic priest do not have the authority to forgive sins."

None of the Bible verses cited proves your allegation that Catholic priests do not have the authority to forgive sins. They're wonderful vrses and Catholics believe them 100%.

You further state "No sin can be truly forgiven without His authority and agreement. If priest can at all divinely forgive they must have God’s specific permission. Catholics agree with you 100%. Has God (Jesus) ever given men His specific permission to forgive sin? What does the Bible say?

Catholics (Roman and non-Roman) and both Eastern and Oriental Orthodox Christians find Biblical proof that God (Jesus) did give specific permission to men to forgive sins in John 20:21-23. You may personally interpret those verses differently.

>"The office of the Apostles ceased"

Yeah? Where in the Bible can I find that? This sounds suspiciously like a tradition of man and we know what the Bible says about traditions of men, don't we?

>"C. The Priest and Catholic Bishops are not qualified to be biblical pastor/Bishop/elders"

This seems to be a matter of personal interpretation. Based on your statement "First of all New Testament Pastors/bishops have to be family men who have monogamous marriages and possibly children," You seem to hold that the Bible requires ministers to be married versus my personal interpretation that the Bible is forbidding plural marriages, polygamy.

As your earlier commenter pointed out there are married priests with children in all the Catholic Churches (Roman and non-Roman).

Regarding your reply about B16, there will likely be no change as married priests with children are neither against the Bible nor Catholic doctrine.

>"D. They have the wrong priesthood. (all born-again Christians have the true priesthood)... [bible verses] ... Peter speaking to the saints told them they were the New Testament priesthood. Therefore, Roman Catholic priest are alternative competitors."

Um, no. According to your citations and belief that all Christians are priests, Catholic priests have the same priesthood of all believers.

Nonetheless, at the last supper Jesus gave only the apostles, and not to all His disciples, the Melchezadek priesthood of bread and wine (Matthew 26). Only to the twelve and not to all His disciples did Jesus give specific permission to forgive sins (John 20:21-23). Catholics find sufficient Biblical support for an ordained priesthood within the priesthood of all believers.

>"II. Catholic Baptism is false."

You claim "A. Baptism is a transliteration of Baptizo the proper translation is immersion"

This concept was largely disproven by Dr M.G. Easton who published Easton's Bible Dictionary in 1897. Easton, a non-Catholic, states "The mode of baptism can in no way be determined from the Greek word rendered "baptize." Eastons writes "none of the instances of baptism recorded in the Acts of the Apostles (2:38-41; 8:26-39; 9:17, 18; 22:12-16; 10:44-48; 16:32-34) favours the idea that it was by dipping the person baptized, or by immersion, while in some of them such a mode was highly improbable."

BTW, Catholics do baptise by immersion and have for centuries. As the Bible lacks clear instructions on how to baptise, Catholics follow the guidance of 1st Century Christians found in the Didache, which was considered canonical at the time.

>"B. The Baptized cannot be infants"

Um, this isn't Biblical. No where in scripture does it ever forbid baptizing infants. You may justify your personal prejudices against baptising babies by twisting scripture and devloping convaluted "proofs" as you like, but no where in scripture are infants forbidden baptism.

>"Water cannot save"

Tell that to Noah and see what he says. (The story of Noah is a pre-figuration of baptism.)

Again, Catholics find sufficient Biblical proof (Rom. 6:3–4; Col. 2:12–13; Titus 3:5) that baptism is regenerational. Further, early Christians held the Catholic interpetation and not yours. Read the First Apology of Justin the Martyr.

Fortunately, whether you personally believe or disbelive baptism to be regenerative is moot. Everyone you validly baptise is regenerated by the baptismal waters and is free from sin. You don't even have to believe it. (They also become a member of the Catholic Church via their valid baptism as well.)

"III. Catholic Mass is false"

>"the elements were never supposed to change and Jesus was physically present at the first communion."

Personally, I'd like to see proof for the first. Regrading Jesus being physically present, what has that to do with Him changing bread into Himself? Oh... You believe that something is impossible for God, don't you? Because God was there God was incapable of being fully present in two physical objects (human body and bread) at the same time. God is not almighty. Who knew?

Why limit God? Catholics find sufficient Biblical proof (Isaiah 55:11, Genesis 1, and Matthew 26:26) that God is almighty and that the bread did not remain bread after Jesus voice went forth and returned to His ears.

>"The greatest blasphemy of the masses is that it insinuates that Christ never finished his work on the Cross and in Stead of reigning in victory he is still tortured day night for our sins. This is practically a satanic statement."

Um, the only one insinuating this is you. Catholics neither insinuate nor believe this.

In charity, I suspect that you hold you viewpoint due to limiting God. You may hold God to temporal (time) limitations. Does God have limits? Is God powerless in regards to time and place?

God does not experience time as we do. At this moment, the world is being created, Jesus is being born, Jesus is being crucified, Paul is writing scriptures, and the world is ending in the Apocalypse. God is not limited by "time". Thus, the Mass is the one sacrafice for all time regardless of the date and location. Jesus has no limits!

Then there's also that nagging prophecy of Malachi 1:11, that you may have overlooked.

[My apologies. I have to depart to celebrate with my mother her 71 years of life. If I get time, I'll try to respond to your other allegations.]

In closing, I'd remind you of the words of G.K. Chesterton:

"I could not understand why these romancers never took the trouble to find out a few elementary facts about the thing they denounced. The facts might easily have helped the denunciation, where the fictions discredited it. There were any number of real Catholic doctrines I should then have thought disgraceful to the Church . . . But the enemies of the Church never found these real rocks of offence. They never looked for them. They never looked for anything . . . Boundless freedom reigned; it was not treated as if it were a question of fact at all . . . It puzzled me very much, even at that early stage, to imagine why people bringing controversial charges against a powerful and prominent institution should thus neglect to test their own case, and should draw in this random way on their own imagination . . . I never dreamed that the Roman religion was true; but I knew that its accusers, for some reason or other, were curiously inaccurate."
(The Catholic Church and Conversion, NY: Macmillan, 1926, 36-38)

God bless... +Timothy

DEEPER TRUTH said...

1- You need to read your Bible. The power to forgive sins was explicitly given to both the Levitical Priests and the Apostles.

2- Your contention is COMPLETELY unsupported by Scripture. There is NOTHING in the Bible that suggests that only immersion is acceptable or that baptism is only for adults.

3- Your contention directly contradicts the expressed words of Jesus recorded in John 6 and Paul in 1 Corinthians 10.

4- Documented historical proofs and the plain words of scripture prove you wrong.

Peter was;
1- Called "rock" (Cephas)
2- Called Shepherd.
3- Given the Keys to the Kingdom.
4- Given the Authority to bind and loose.
5- Given the power to forgive sins.
6- Placed first among the apostles.

It's all right there in your Bible.

5- Catholics don't worship mary and it is silly to suggest they do. Nevertheless, She is to be revered as the Ark of the Covenant. Rev- 11:19- 12:17

6- Of course not. Only Jesus can save...and only Jesus can condemn and the Bible is CRYSTAL clear that your CONDUCT will determine which one. 21 scripture citations in MATTHEW ALONE prove this.

7- Where is #7??????

If you wish to debate any one of these topics, let me know.

One at a time, no more.

Pastor Matt Singleton said...

I am glad that you fellows are finally able to face this article.

In response to timothy,
The Apostles did recieve from Jesus the ability to remit sins.
I do interpret this had to do with their apostolic authority establishing the Jerusalem church. Their ministry was among the jews. Galatians 2:7

NT churches in general have the authority which makes them autonomous toward other groups and responsible to interpret the scriptures.Matthew 18:18 1Timothy 3:15

Timothy you failed to respond to the scriptures already provided. showing that an apostle had to be a witness to Christ's first coming and that Paul claimed he was last.


The Bible clearly states not forbid marriage and The Catholic church enforces that rule on the clergy. Paul clearly qualifies a Bishop to have experience with marriage and possibly family. You could aruge to make an exception for a single, but to make single the rule is a clear attack upon God's Word.

The Roman Priest is incapable of having the priesthood of born again Christianity because they have disobeyed the Apostle Paul concerning the gospel.
To warp the gospel is to be condemned to Hell.Galatians 1:8
they claim to need works for salvation.
Paul teaches against that.
Galatians 2:16
They claim to follow the Law. Yet they have broken the Sabbath by changing the day of worship.
Paul condemns here as well. Gal. 3:10 The RCC Priest are therefore not truly born-again and have no authority.

"Catholics find sufficient Biblical support for an ordained priesthood within the priesthood of all believers"
This an obvious contradiction. Jesus is the High priest not the Pope. Born-agin Christians are a preisthood therefore they need the high priest, Christ. This a clear example of the Catholic Occam's razor. To complex to be true.

The claim that Baptism is not by immersion is Gobbledy Gook.
Easton's dictionary favors many catholic ideas like many mainline protestants.
But what about Dr. Karl Barth? He was a liberal protestant from the lutheran reformed tradition which practiced infant Baptism and he contradicted his church to admit that Baptism was immersion. Even though he had nothing to do with Baptist theology.
Baptisim is not an english made word. Since it is greek what is the root word?......
yep. "immersion"

The water of the flood didn't save Noah it killed the whole earth! The ark saved Noah! DUH!!

"Personally, I'd like to see proof for the first. Regrading Jesus being physically present, what has that to do with Him changing bread into Himself? Oh... You believe that something is impossible for God, don't you? Because God was there God was incapable of being fully present in two physical objects (human body and bread) at the same time. God is not almighty. Who knew?"
One of My critiques of RCC is that the Mass leads one identify as not fully human. Timothy I believe you are headed down in that direction. So was the spirit of antichrist (1John 4:3)

You can't express God in this unlimited term and then agree with the Pope that evolution is ok. God is capable of doing anything but limits himself to the truth that he projects. God is capable of sin. But is incapable since he is Holy. If this really happen Christ would have mentioned the apostle were now free to engage in cannablism that God forbid under Noah.(Gen 9)
thanks

DEEPER TRUTH said...

I am glad that you fellows are finally able to face this article.

[[[[faced it long ago. Pitifully researched, poorly written and full of more logical fallacies then I can count. Not to even mention that a good third of your statements are outright lies.]]]]]]]]

In response to timothy,
The Apostles did recieve from Jesus the ability to remit sins.
I do interpret this had to do with their apostolic authority establishing the Jerusalem church. Their ministry was among the jews. Galatians 2:7

[[[[[This is because you do not understand your Bible. The power to forgive sins was given to the Levitical Priests and there is no evidence that authority was ever taken away. On the contrary, Jesus reemphasized it and historical proofs show it was never not in force from the time of the Apostles up to today.]]]]]]

NT churches in general have the authority which makes them autonomous toward other groups and responsible to interpret the scriptures.Matthew 18:18 1Timothy 3:15

[[[[[[ Nonsense. Just like sacramental confession, a hierarchy in the Church can be demonstrated from the Apostles stright to the present day. Church History does not smile on your silly notions.

If each person is free to his own interpretation, the scriptures THEMSELVES are violated.

2 Peter 1:20]]]]]]]]

Timothy you failed to respond to the scriptures already provided. showing that an apostle had to be a witness to Christ's first coming and that Paul claimed he was last.

[[[[[The disciples were given the power to choose their successors as they did when the replaced Judas.

Acts 1
23So they proposed two men: Joseph called Barsabbas (also known as Justus) and Matthias. 24Then they prayed, "Lord, you know everyone's heart. Show us which of these two you have chosen 25to take over this apostolic ministry, which Judas left to go where he belongs." 26Then they cast lots, and the lot fell to Matthias; so he was added to the eleven apostles.

Since Apostles succesors had to be chosen by Apostles or Apostle's successors, you are a fraud....with no Biblical authority whatsoever. ]]]]]]]

The Bible clearly states not forbid marriage and The Catholic church enforces that rule on the clergy. Paul clearly qualifies a Bishop to have experience with marriage and possibly family. You could aruge to make an exception for a single, but to make single the rule is a clear attack upon God's Word.

[[[[[No it is not. It is simply an exercise of the Church's legitimate authority to bind and loose as in Matthew 16:18 and Matthew 18:18. That same authority would just as surely allow the Church to relieve this requirement. However, they shouldn't. Protestant ministers have proven, time and time again that they cant handle EITHER the ministry or a family...let alone BOTH.]]]]]]]


The Roman Priest is incapable of having the priesthood of born again Christianity because they have disobeyed the Apostle Paul concerning the gospel.

[[[[according to an infidel who never once had that priestly authority lol]]]]]]

To warp the gospel is to be condemned to Hell.Galatians 1:8
they claim to need works for salvation.

[[[[[[ The Bible is crystal clear to anyone with his eyes open that your conduct will determine your salvation. I could easily produce a hundred verses to show this.

Again, Church history is key. It is a proven fact that the early church, through today recognized the need to obey the commandments to be saved.

In fact, it is SO clear that anyone who denies it must be blind, insane or just plain a liar.

Luke 18: 18-27 ]]]]]]

Paul teaches against that.
Galatians 2:16
[[[no, he CERTAINLY does not.
Romans 2
God's Righteous Judgment
1You, therefore, have no excuse, you who pass judgment on someone else, for at whatever point you judge the other, you are condemning yourself, because you who pass judgment do the same things. 2Now we know that God's judgment against those who do such things is based on truth. 3So when you, a mere man, pass judgment on them and yet do the same things, do you think you will escape God's judgment? 4Or do you show contempt for the riches of his kindness, tolerance and patience, not realizing that God's kindness leads you toward repentance?
5But because of your stubbornness and your unrepentant heart, you are storing up wrath against yourself for the day of God's wrath, when his righteous judgment will be revealed.
]]]]]]]

They claim to follow the Law. Yet they have broken the Sabbath by changing the day of worship.

[[[[[Notice that of all the Commandments, only the Saturday Sabbath was not renewed by Christ anywhere in the New Testament.

Jesus said He was "Lord, even of the Sabbath" Mark 2:28 and that the Sabbath was made for men, not men for the Sabbath.

The Sabbath was FULFILLED when God rested on the seventh day (in the tomb).

Of course, the Apostles knew this, that is why they gathered on the FIRST day (Sunday)

John 20:19, Acts 20:7, 1 Corinthians 16:2

What kind of a Pastor doesn't even know this!!!!????? ]]]]]]

Paul condemns here as well. Gal. 3:10 The RCC Priest are therefore not truly born-again and have no authority.

"Catholics find sufficient Biblical support for an ordained priesthood within the priesthood of all believers"
This an obvious contradiction.

[[[nonsense. There is an obvious distinction between the MINISTERIAL Priesthood and the general Priesthood ]]]]

Jesus is the High priest not the Pope.

[[[[ Unless Jesus conferred that authority...which He did]]]

Born-agin Christians are a preisthood therefore they need the high priest, Christ.

[[["born again Christians" as you call them are nothing more than a protestant invention, having no annointing whatsoever...a patent, man made fraud. ]]]]

This a clear example of the Catholic Occam's razor. To complex to be true.

The claim that Baptism is not by immersion is Gobbledy Gook.
Easton's dictionary favors many catholic ideas like many mainline protestants.
But what about Dr. Karl Barth? He was a liberal protestant from the lutheran reformed tradition which practiced infant Baptism and he contradicted his church to admit that Baptism was immersion. Even though he had nothing to do with Baptist theology.
Baptisim is not an english made word. Since it is greek what is the root word?......
yep. "immersion"

[[[[[ There is nothing in Scripture backing up your statements. The SANCTIFYING GRACE is what makes Baptism valuable. The water is just an outward visible sign. ]]]]]

The water of the flood didn't save Noah it killed the whole earth! The ark saved Noah! DUH!!

[[[and what lifted the boat??? geesh, you are dense]]]]]

"Personally, I'd like to see proof for the first. Regrading Jesus being physically present, what has that to do with Him changing bread into Himself? Oh... You believe that something is impossible for God, don't you? Because God was there God was incapable of being fully present in two physical objects (human body and bread) at the same time. God is not almighty. Who knew?"
One of My critiques of RCC is that the Mass leads one identify as not fully human. Timothy I believe you are headed down in that direction. So was the spirit of antichrist (1John 4:3)

You can't express God in this unlimited term and then agree with the Pope that evolution is ok.

God is capable of doing anything but limits himself to the truth that he projects. God is capable of sin. But is incapable since he is Holy. If this really happen Christ would have mentioned the apostle were now free to engage in cannablism that God forbid under Noah.(Gen 9)
thanks

[[[[ Jesus said His body is REAL FOOD and His blood is REAL DRINK. You shouldn't call Jesus a liar.]]]]



March 11, 2009 10:38 AM

DEEPER TRUTH said...

Here are the facts.
1- The Biblical and Historical proof that Jesus founded and established the Roman Catholic Church and preserved it's authority is beyond overwhelming.

2- The Biblical or Historical evidence for it EVER being stripped of that authority is ZERO.

3- The Biblical or Historical evidence for that authority being given to a bunch of bozos named Calvin, Luther, Smyth and Singleton is LESS than zero.

Jesus formed the Roman Catholic Church. All other so-called Christian Churches are man made frauds.

That is why, unlike all the pretenders, miracles have never ceased in the Catholic Church since the day Our Lord Jesus, HIMSELF, founded it.

There are no miracles in Baptist churches because God is not the author of confusion.

Those are the facts and there is no disputing them.

Jesus warned me about false Prophets like you. I KNOW what the truth is...and so do you.

Pastor Matt Singleton said...

"That is why, unlike all the pretenders, [miracles have never ceased in the Catholic Church] since the day Our Lord Jesus, HIMSELF, founded it."

Before the east west split. Catholic Bishop John Chrysostem calimed that there had been no miraculous activity since apostles.

Matthew 7:21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. 7:22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? 7:23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity

DEEPER TRUTH said...

Before the east west split. Catholic Bishop John Chrysostem calimed that there had been no miraculous activity since apostles.

No citation? LOL

Matthew 7:21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. 7:22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? 7:23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity

This verse actually proves the CATHOLIC position. Workers of evil will not inherit heaven, no matter how much they claim they are saved.

Yet, leave it, once again, to Pastor Matt to produce a Scripture citation having nothing to do with the issue at hand.

The wondrous deeds men claim to do have nothing to do with the miraculous signs by which God has always made His true believers known.

Acts 2:17
" 'In the last days, God says, I will pour out my Spirit on all people. Your sons and daughters will prophesy, your young men will see visions, your old men will dream dreams.


Numbers 14:11
The LORD said to Moses, "How long will these people treat me with contempt? How long will they refuse to believe in me, in spite of all the miraculous signs I have performed among them?

John 10:25
Jesus answered, "I did tell you, but you do not believe. The miracles I do in my Father's name speak for me

John 10:38
But if I do it, even though you do not believe me, believe the miracles, that you may know and understand that the Father is in me, and I in the Father."

The Catholic church has THOUSANDS of documented miracles of Gog. The baptist church has ZERO. Why? because you are a man-made, false religion based on trying to take the easy way out.

2 Timothy 4:3
For the time will come when men will not put up with sound doctrine. Instead, to suit their own desires, they will gather around them a great number of teachers to say what their itching ears want to hear.

DEEPER TRUTH said...

God, not Gog

DEEPER TRUTH said...

notice that i don't run and hide like you do. I take your arguments on directly and rip them to shreds.

Your false, man-made religion does not square with scripture.

you know it, I know it

DEEPER TRUTH said...

7 Reasons why protestantism cannot save a single soul;

1) Sola Fide is false. The Bible is crystal clear that man is justified by works and NOT by faith alone. James 2

2) Sola Scriptura is false. Not only is this protestant invention wholly unscriptural, it is historically untenable and does violence to basic logic.

3) Denial of Church authority is false. Jesus clearly gave the apostles the power to bind and loose and entrusted them the authority to pass it on through the church. Apostolic succession must be passed on from the church through the laying on of hands.

2 Timothy 1:6
For this reason I remind you to fan into flame the gift of God, which is in you through the laying on of my hands.


In short, one cannot receive it from one who never had it. Therefore, every protestant minister is an imposter.

4) The denial of the real prescence is false. John 6 and 1 Corinthians 10 tell us clearly enough that Christ is truly present in the bread and wine. To deny this is apostasy.

5) The denial of priestly confession is false.

# Leviticus 4:20
and do with this bull just as he did with the bull for the sin offering. In this way the priest will make atonement for them, and they will be forgiven.
Leviticus 4:19-21 (in Context) Leviticus 4 (Whole Chapter)
# Leviticus 4:26
He shall burn all the fat on the altar as he burned the fat of the fellowship offering. In this way the priest will make atonement for the man's sin, and he will be forgiven.
Leviticus 4:25-27 (in Context) Leviticus 4 (Whole Chapter)
# Leviticus 4:35
He shall remove all the fat, just as the fat is removed from the lamb of the fellowship offering, and the priest shall burn it on the altar on top of the offerings made to the LORD by fire. In this way the priest will make atonement for him for the sin he has committed, and he will be forgiven.
Leviticus 4:34-35 (in Context) Leviticus 4 (Whole Chapter)
# Leviticus 5:10
The priest shall then offer the other as a burnt offering in the prescribed way and make atonement for him for the sin he has committed, and he will be forgiven.
Leviticus 5:9-11 (in Context) Leviticus 5 (Whole Chapter)
# Leviticus 5:13
In this way the priest will make atonement for him for any of these sins he has committed, and he will be forgiven. The rest of the offering will belong to the priest, as in the case of the grain offering.' "
Leviticus 5:12-14 (in Context) Leviticus 5 (Whole Chapter)
# Leviticus 19:22
With the ram of the guilt offering the priest is to make atonement for him before the LORD for the sin he has committed, and his sin will be forgiven.
Leviticus 19:21-23 (in Context) Leviticus 19 (Whole Chapter)
# Numbers 15:25
The priest is to make atonement for the whole Israelite community, and they will be forgiven, for it was not intentional and they have brought to the LORD for their wrong an offering made by fire and a sin offering.
Numbers 15:24-26 (in Context) Numbers 15 (Whole Chapter)
# Numbers 15:28
The priest is to make atonement before the LORD for the one who erred by sinning unintentionally, and when atonement has been made for him, he will be forgiven


This authority was reitterated by Christ HIMSELF

John 20:21-23 (New International Version)

21Again Jesus said, "Peace be with you! As the Father has sent me, I am sending you." 22And with that he breathed on them and said, "Receive the Holy Spirit. 23If you forgive anyone his sins, they are forgiven; if you do not forgive them, they are not forgiven."


To say that priestly confession has been abolished is an untenable protestant invention.

6) The denial that Mary is the Mother of God is false and blasphemy for it denies the very Divinity of Christ.

7) To deny the intercession of the saints is to deny Scripture.

Hebrews 12:1
[ God Disciplines His Sons ] Therefore, since we are surrounded by such a great cloud of witnesses, let us throw off everything that hinders and the sin that so easily entangles, and let us run with perseverance the race marked out for us

# Revelation 5:8
And when he had taken it, the four living creatures and the twenty-four elders fell down before the Lamb. Each one had a harp and they were holding golden bowls full of incense, which are the prayers of the saints.


Throw off the yoke of the fake religion of protestantism, Matt. Become a TRUE Christian. Join a Catholic Church today! The soul you save may be your own!

DEEPER TRUTH said...

We may not make graven images to anyone

LOL

Silly fundie.

1 Kings 6
23 In the inner sanctuary he made a pair of cherubim of olive wood, each ten cubits [l] high. 24 One wing of the first cherub was five cubits long, and the other wing five cubits—ten cubits from wing tip to wing tip. 25 The second cherub also measured ten cubits, for the two cherubim were identical in size and shape. 26 The height of each cherub was ten cubits. 27 He placed the cherubim inside the innermost room of the temple, with their wings spread out. The wing of one cherub touched one wall, while the wing of the other touched the other wall, and their wings touched each other in the middle of the room. 28 He overlaid the cherubim with gold.

29 On the walls all around the temple, in both the inner and outer rooms, he carved cherubim, palm trees and open flowers. 30 He also covered the floors of both the inner and outer rooms of the temple with gold.

Exodus 25:17-19 (New International Version)

17 "Make an atonement cover [a] of pure gold—two and a half cubits long and a cubit and a half wide. [b] 18 And make two cherubim out of hammered gold at the ends of the cover. 19 Make one cherub on one end and the second cherub on the other; make the cherubim of one piece with the cover, at the two ends.


Wow! Everything you say winds up being the opposite of what Scripture says, Matt!

DEEPER TRUTH said...

The Bible doesn't forbid images, Matt. It forbids the WORSHIP of images. Why else would God COMMAND Moses to place images of angels on the top of the Ark of the Covenant?

Thou shalt not make unto thee [for your self] any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth: Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, [kneeling is not bowing] nor serve them: [worship] for I the Lord thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me; [Catholics do not hate God] And shewing mercy unto thousands of them that love me, and keep my commandments.

[Oh wait! that means WORKS save!
(Exodus 20:4-6)


The problem with you protestants is that you have no clue what the Scriptures are saying!

DEEPER TRUTH said...

Isn't it time to stop wasting your time in an apostate religion? The Catholic Church is the only true church.

DEEPER TRUTH said...

"The greatest blasphemy of the masses is that it insinuates that Christ never finished his work on the Cross and in Stead of reigning in victory he is still tortured day night for our sins. This is practically a satanic statement."

So...which vomit spewing anti-catholic moron did you glean this priceless treasure from?

Henry? Hunt? Boettner? Chick?

doesn't matter.

With very little effort indeed, you could have foound out how absurd this accusation is. It goes to show the lengths to which a hypocrite such as yourself will go to smear another faith tradition.

Of course, to knowingly spread a falsehood, or even to spread a statement of questionable veracity is to bear false witness.

You knew that, right, Matt?

So...let's break this down logically and expose the inanity of this spurious charge...

"The greatest blasphemy of the masses is that it insinuates that Christ never finished his work on the Cross It insinuates no such thing. This statement is a complete non-sequiter. The Mass is about the OFFERING of the sacrifice. In each Mass, the last supper is commerorated with words STRAIGHT FROM THE SCRIPTURES.

23For I received from the Lord what I also passed on to you: The Lord Jesus, on the night he was betrayed, took bread, 24and when he had given thanks, he broke it and said, "This is my body, which is for you; do this in remembrance of me." 25In the same way, after supper he took the cup, saying, "This cup is the new covenant in my blood; do this, whenever you drink it, in remembrance of me." 26For whenever you eat this bread and drink this cup, you proclaim the Lord's death until he comes.

The blasphemy is that you are calling Jesus Christ a liar. Jesus said This IS my body

In John 6, He says My body is real food and my blood is real drink .

Your lack of faith is not my problem.

The fact is that the real prescence has been the position of REAL Christians for 2 millenia while the imposters who deny it have done so for less than 500.

and in Stead of reigning in victory he is still tortured day night for our sins.

Nowhere, in any catholic document, council, or statement, will you find this lunacy. It is a complete apparition of the author's mind. This is practically a satanic statement."

On the part of the person you quoted? Yes!

Let's follow this step by step.

1) The Mass insinuates that Christ's work is unfinished- Non Sequiter.

2) and instead of reigning in victory, he is tortured day and night- Strawman.

3) Satanic statement- Strawman #2.

The author invents an absurd interpretation, projects that interpretation onto catholics, then has the AUDACITY to call Catholics satanic for a position that HE created and stated. Just amazing.

Now, let's blow this idiotic "finished work" argument out of the water. Christ's work is indeed finished.... CHRIST'S WORK.

That doesn't mean YOU don't have anything to do.

Paul said....

Colossians 1:24
Now I rejoice in what was suffered for you, and I fill up in my flesh what is still lacking in regard to Christ's afflictions, for the sake of his body, which is the church.


Now, you may ask What could possibly be lacking in the sufferings of Christ?

Good question. The answer? Our part. He did HIS part. Christ suffered to give suffering salvific power. He shared in our sufferings that they be not in vain.

but make no mistake...you have to carry your own cross.

# Luke 9:23
Then he said to them all: "If anyone would come after me, he must deny himself and take up his cross daily and follow me.
Luke 9:22-24 (in Context) Luke 9 (Whole Chapter)
# Luke 14:27
And anyone who does not carry his cross and follow me cannot be my disciple.


Sola fide is a joke and so are your pathetic slurs on the Mass.

DEEPER TRUTH said...

and, once again, Matt the sniveling coward goes silent.

DEEPER TRUTH said...

No answer?

You off at a Klan rally or something?

Pastor Matt Singleton said...

"Sola Scriptura is false. Not only is this protestant invention wholly unscriptural, it is historically untenable and does violence to basic logic."
What no citation? LOL!!!!!!!!!

Pastor Matt Singleton said...

"1- You need to read your Bible. The power to forgive sins was explicitly given to both the Levitical Priests and the Apostles."
So which popes are jewish levites and which ones have witnessed Christ early ministry?
what no citations?LOL!!!!!!!

Pastor Matt Singleton said...

"The Biblical and Historical proof that Jesus founded and established the Roman Catholic Church and preserved it's authority is beyond overwhelming."
So when did Jesus ever even visit the chruch at Romae much less start the church from there?
What no citations?LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Pastor Matt Singleton said...

"This verse actually proves the CATHOLIC position. Workers of evil will not inherit heaven, no matter how much they claim they are saved."
So the Catholics agree that the Roman gospel can not save?

Pastor Matt Singleton said...

"2 Timothy 1:6
For this reason I remind you to fan into flame the gift of God, which is in you through the laying on of my hands.

In short, one cannot receive it from one who never had it. Therefore, every protestant minister is an imposter."

That's why the catholic confirmation is worthless and most catholics that I have spoken with can ever remember what they said! Catholics do not have the Holy SPirit. That is why the Donatist were angry when the Catholic church forced priest upon them who had actually denied faith in Jesus Christ under pressure.
Most Catholic priest are smart enough not to believe in the myths of their own religion even today.

Pastor Matt Singleton said...

"The Catholic church has THOUSANDS of documented miracles of Gog. The baptist church has ZERO. Why? because you are a man-made, false religion based on trying to take the easy way out."
What a load garbage!
The Baptists unlike The anti-christ and the Catholics do not sit around trying to make up miracles to make authority.

They claim it upon the clear teachings of the word of God.

Now many Baptist have been so afraid to claim miracles because we have seen the abuse which the great whore uses to abuse people. Like all the money your church has absorbed with these magic acts and the Blue army estblished in spain in the 40's and 50's.
However God has done great works among his people. I have known of many healings and spiritual gifts as Paul records that have helped baptist.
And this is why New Testament Christians have survived the onslaught of the great Babylonian empire which you ride on.