Bill Ludlow is an evolutionist who frequents the internet quite often. I typically see him on facebook.
He is a member of several prestigeous evolution promoting groups:Geological Society of America,Southwest Paleontological Society,National Center for Science Education. He had one of the few ever Succesful debates recently against creation science proponent Kent Hovind. Although I believe this is more an issue of Kent seeming distracted and not fully prepared. However, Bill is one of the more keen and aggressive defenders of Darwinism and is a worthy adversary in all respects. I will likely pursue a formal debate with Mr. Ludlow in the future. Until then I had a succesful exchange with him yesterday. I am presenting his post and later exchange with me. Now basically Bill's uniformitarian dates are fallacious as I have identified in other articles. He applies the fallacy of cherry picking his preferred fossils( as opposed to giants and other mutated fossils.) he also uses the fallacy of induction and assumes a lineage without evidence from a small population.
I decided to publish this the day after the exchange although Bill might respond later.
Bill Ludlow
"Creationists constantly make the claim "there are no transitional fossils." You can see it on every creationist website and in every discussion group every day of the year. They repeat this mantra over and over, even when given direct empirical evidence to the contrary. While there are literally thousands of transitional species in the fossil record, lets focus on just this one for now.
Homo erectus lived between 1.9 million years ago and possibly 70,000 years ago, which means it pre-dated modern humans, but also existed in places at the same time as us since we have been around nearly 200,000 years.
Transitional features of Homo erectus:
Intermediate in height between earlier species such a the australopithecines and later species such as H. sapiens, Homo erectus males averaged 5' to 5.5' tall.
Homo erectus skulls were shaped differently than modern humans and show intermediate features between earlier species and us. They had larger brow ridges, larger neck muscles attached to the back of the head, and a shallow sloping forehead like more primitive species.
Homo erectus cranial capacity was intermediate between earlier species and later species. Their cranial capacity averaged 70% of modern humans, but at least 50% larger than previous species. More recent specimens had larger cranial capacity than those that were a million years older.
While anatomy from the neck down was very similar to modern humans, arm and leg bones were more dense like we see in australopithecines and Neandertals.
Early Homo erectus teeth were intermediate in shape and size between modern humans and australopithecines, but later H. erectus specimens have smaller teeth more like us.
Besides transitional anatomical features, evidence shows H erectus made stone tools, hunted game, and had mastered the use of fire much like us. There is no evidence earlier species like the australopithecines were that far advanced, showing they were transitional as far as technology and culture goes too.
Please limit comments to discussing the transitional aspects of Homo erectus.
He is a member of several prestigeous evolution promoting groups:Geological Society of America,Southwest Paleontological Society,National Center for Science Education. He had one of the few ever Succesful debates recently against creation science proponent Kent Hovind. Although I believe this is more an issue of Kent seeming distracted and not fully prepared. However, Bill is one of the more keen and aggressive defenders of Darwinism and is a worthy adversary in all respects. I will likely pursue a formal debate with Mr. Ludlow in the future. Until then I had a succesful exchange with him yesterday. I am presenting his post and later exchange with me. Now basically Bill's uniformitarian dates are fallacious as I have identified in other articles. He applies the fallacy of cherry picking his preferred fossils( as opposed to giants and other mutated fossils.) he also uses the fallacy of induction and assumes a lineage without evidence from a small population.
I decided to publish this the day after the exchange although Bill might respond later.
Bill Ludlow
"Creationists constantly make the claim "there are no transitional fossils." You can see it on every creationist website and in every discussion group every day of the year. They repeat this mantra over and over, even when given direct empirical evidence to the contrary. While there are literally thousands of transitional species in the fossil record, lets focus on just this one for now.
Homo erectus lived between 1.9 million years ago and possibly 70,000 years ago, which means it pre-dated modern humans, but also existed in places at the same time as us since we have been around nearly 200,000 years.
Transitional features of Homo erectus:
Intermediate in height between earlier species such a the australopithecines and later species such as H. sapiens, Homo erectus males averaged 5' to 5.5' tall.
Homo erectus skulls were shaped differently than modern humans and show intermediate features between earlier species and us. They had larger brow ridges, larger neck muscles attached to the back of the head, and a shallow sloping forehead like more primitive species.
Homo erectus cranial capacity was intermediate between earlier species and later species. Their cranial capacity averaged 70% of modern humans, but at least 50% larger than previous species. More recent specimens had larger cranial capacity than those that were a million years older.
While anatomy from the neck down was very similar to modern humans, arm and leg bones were more dense like we see in australopithecines and Neandertals.
Early Homo erectus teeth were intermediate in shape and size between modern humans and australopithecines, but later H. erectus specimens have smaller teeth more like us.
Besides transitional anatomical features, evidence shows H erectus made stone tools, hunted game, and had mastered the use of fire much like us. There is no evidence earlier species like the australopithecines were that far advanced, showing they were transitional as far as technology and culture goes too.
Please limit comments to discussing the transitional aspects of Homo erectus.
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Matt SIngleton Hey Bill when is the next KLAN meeting? Your pic LITERALLY looks like a a guy I knew from amateur wrestling.
Bill Ludlow They'll do anything to avoid discussing the obvious transitional features.
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Matt SIngleton Of
course it addresses the fact that humans don't transition into humans.
They are just human. Have that dude have kids with a white person and
then have them marry and breed again and if maybe one or two more
generations and his descendents will be white or as you call them
homosapian sapiens. If you want a case study try living in the hood.
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Bill Ludlow Have homo erectus go to the hood and breed with white people? Really?
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Matt SIngleton Hey! You know how you guys like to claim that Egyptian history is accurate in order to debunk the bible?
Shouldn't this picture be accurate then?
That dude looks taller than your erectus!
ManageShouldn't this picture be accurate then?
That dude looks taller than your erectus!
Matt SIngleton WHAT'S WEIRD TO ME IS THE FACT THAT YOU CLAIM THAT ERECTUS IS SO SHORT!!!
"Homo erectus height
H. erectus had an average height of about 1.79 m (5 feet, 10 inches). Males were 20-30% larger than females. Homo erectus utilized diverse and sophisticated tools compared to H. habilis and together with H. ergaster was probably the first human species that matched the definition of hunter gatherer."
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Manage"Homo erectus height
H. erectus had an average height of about 1.79 m (5 feet, 10 inches). Males were 20-30% larger than females. Homo erectus utilized diverse and sophisticated tools compared to H. habilis and together with H. ergaster was probably the first human species that matched the definition of hunter gatherer."
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Bill Ludlow I did?
"Homo erectus males averaged 5' to 5.5' tall."
"Homo erectus males averaged 5' to 5.5' tall."
Bill Ludlow Neandertals average height was shorter than Homo sapiens.
Matt SIngleton Can
you show me scientific proof that neanderthals and Homoerectus had a ht
limit? you are already guilty of an inductive fallacy since you do not
have the full populations of anyone of these evolutionary contenders.
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Bill Ludlow A height limit? What's that?
Matt SIngleton You
have a hazy average of a sample of the theoretical population. you
have no foundation of a species difference by the observation of
hieght.
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Bill Ludlow We have an average height based on available data.
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