marxist atheists using eschatology to debunk christianity

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 1. Mark was not the first gospel that was written Church hoistory unanymously states that it was matthew which was first.

2. The modern versions are dingo dung. Obviousley that is a longer conversation here is a book I wrote explaining it. https://biblesmack.blogspot.com/2017/10/links-for-book-new-look-at-old-word.html here is mark 13:1 And as he went out of the temple, one of his disciples saith unto him, Master, see what manner of stones and what buildings are here! 2 And Jesus answering said unto him, Seest thou these great buildings? there shall not be left one stone upon another, that shall not be thrown down. 3 And as he sat upon the mount of Olives over against the temple, Peter and James and John and Andrew asked him privately,4 Tell us, when shall these things be? and what shall be the sign when all these things shall be fulfilled?5 And Jesus answering them began to say, Take heed lest any man deceive you:6 For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many.7 And when ye shall hear of wars and rumours of wars, be ye not troubled: for such things must needs be; but the end shall not be yet.8 For nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom: and there shall be earthquakes in divers places, and there shall be famines and troubles: these are the beginnings of sorrows.9 But take heed to yourselves: for they shall deliver you up to councils; and in the synagogues ye shall be beaten: and ye shall be brought before rulers and kings for my sake, for a testimony against them.10 And the gospel must first be published among all nations.11 But when they shall lead you, and deliver you up, take no thought beforehand what ye shall speak, neither do ye premeditate: but whatsoever shall be given you in that hour, that speak ye: for it is not ye that speak, but the Holy Ghost.12 Now the brother shall betray the brother to death, and the father the son; and children shall rise up against their parents, and shall cause them to be put to death.13 And ye shall be hated of all men for my name's sake: but he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved. 14 But when ye shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, standing where it ought not, (let him that readeth understand,) then let them that be in Judaea flee to the mountains:15 And let him that is on the housetop not go down into the house, neither enter therein, to take any thing out of his house:16 And let him that is in the field not turn back again for to take up his garment.17 But woe to them that are with child, and to them that give suck in those days!18 And pray ye that your flight be not in the winter.19 For in those days shall be affliction, such as was not from the beginning of the creation which God created unto this time, neither shall be.20 And except that the Lord had shortened those days, no flesh should be saved: but for the elect's sake, whom he hath chosen, he hath shortened the days.21 And then if any man shall say to you, Lo, here is Christ; or, lo, he is there; believe him not:22 For false Christs and false prophets shall rise, and shall shew signs and wonders, to seduce, if it were possible, even the elect.23 But take ye heed: behold, I have foretold you all things.24 But in those days, after that tribulation, the sun shall be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light,25 And the stars of heaven shall fall, and the powers that are in heaven shall be shaken. 26 And then shall they see the Son of man coming in the clouds with great power and glory. 27 And then shall he send his angels, and shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from the uttermost part of the earth to the uttermost part of heaven. 28 Now learn a parable of the fig tree; When her branch is yet tender, and putteth forth leaves, ye know that summer is near: 29 So ye in like manner, when ye shall see these things come to pass, know that it is nigh, even at the doors.30 Verily I say unto you, that this generation shall not pass, till all these things be done.31 Heaven and earth shall pass away: but my words shall not pass away.32 But of that day and that hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels which are in heaven, neither the Son, but the Father.33 Take ye heed, watch and pray: for ye know not when the time is.34 For the Son of Man is as a man taking a far journey, who left his house, and gave authority to his servants, and to every man his work, and commanded the porter to watch. 35 Watch ye therefore: for ye know not when the master of the house cometh, at even, or at midnight, or at the cockcrowing, or in the morning:36 Lest coming suddenly he find you sleeping. 37 And what I say unto you I say unto all, Watch." Now he claims narcissisticly that the second coming was supposed to happen in "this generation". Which generation? "10 And the gospel must first be published among all nations." it is the genersation after the gospel has been published among all nations. So had the gospel reached the aborigines??? the contemporary scholarship these guys follow says No!!! So then all this stuff is prophetically later. Wow! that was supposed to be the knock out blow! Well, it did blow! I am sorry but it is hard to listen to such embarassing ignorance of theology and act like 3 billion people now have to shake in their boots. because these guys couldn't do very basic exogesis. 3. The Bible is perfect. but you are not. These guys beg the question they think God does not exist because they can't understand faith and they are smarter than all the world no one has anything to correct them with or teach them so that iuf there is "a god" he is not as smart as they are. 4. we know that Jesus flew off in the clouds because 120 witnesses saw huim. and after massive searches from the jews and the romans they could never fiund a body. they actually thought it easier to kill thousands of people for centuries than to find the body. 5, the churches ethics: pursue the truth. that makes sense Because God is truth. but if there is no God then there is no truth, everything is subjective in lknowledge but also there is no moral base to pursue truth. he evene he admitted that he got the moral pursue truth from the church. Well if the truth is no longer to be pursued then you know this guy is a liar. 6.Matthew 24:2 And Jesus said unto them, See ye not all these things? verily I say unto you, There shall not be left here one stone upon another, that shall not be thrown down. 3 And as he sat upon the mount of Olives, the disciples came unto him privately, saying, Tell us, when shall these things be? and what shall be the sign of thy coming, and of the end of the world?" So here we have not one, but two topics. the destruction of the temple and then the endtimes after that. 7. We see the break again in matthew 24. :13 But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved. 14 And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come. 15 When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand:)" 13 The destruction of the temple 14: the gospel of the kingdom spreading throughout all the earth which is still going on. 15: The gret tribulation aka time of jacob's trouble. 8. in matthew which is the first gospel this is made even more obvious. 29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken: 30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory." "the tribulation of those days" IS "this generation"! "33 So likewise ye, when ye shall see all these things, know that it is near, even at the doors." the if you see the trib. then at that time you know you are in it! Not while ghe prophecy is yet to be fulfilled. 9. As already discussed Jesus was predicting the fall of jerusalem as well as the endtimes. The fall of jerusalem most certainly happened!! 40 yrs later, all the destruction Jesus predicted came to pass. The persecution happened there were thirty contenders for the title of messiah in that century and none of them were said t be risen from the dead. 10. the preterist interpretation was invented in the 1600's. out of those full preterist were considered by all heretics in defiance of most creeds including the apostles creed. 11. "he doesn't mean what you think he meant" you see these guys are going to claim that the postled conspired to write the gospels at some point. Well if they conspired then they would reconcile these issues and very simply not publish weird prophesies. if there is an issue in need of reconciliation then you have a real story fron a real Christ. 12. Matthew 16:27 For the Son of man shall come in the glory of his Father with his angels; and then he shall reward every man according to his works.28 Verily I say unto you, There be some standing here, which shall not taste of death, till they see the Son of man coming in his kingdom.17:1 And after six days Jesus taketh Peter, James, and John his brother, and bringeth them up into an high mountain apart,2 And was transfigured before them: and his face did shine as the sun, and his raiment was white as the light.3 And, behold, there appeared unto them Moses and Elias talking with him. 4 Then answered Peter, and said unto Jesus, Lord, it is good for us to be here: if thou wilt, let us make here three tabernacles; one for thee, and one for Moses, and one for Elias.5 While he yet spake, behold, a bright cloud overshadowed them: and behold a voice out of the cloud, which said, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased; hear ye him. 6 And when the disciples heard it, they fell on their face, and were sore afraid.7 And Jesus came and touched them, and said, Arise, and be not afraid.8 And when they had lifted up their eyes, they saw no man, save Jesus only.9 And as they came down from the mountain, Jesus charged them, saying, Tell the vision to no man, until the Son of man be risen again from the dead." All you have to do is remember that there are no chapter verse divisions in the original gospel. then we see an early fufillment immediately following. Some of you is the fact that not all the apostles would see it. if these guys had any real experience with prophecy and aposalyptic literature they would know that this genre does not require strict chronology. it is in relation to the experience of the topic at hand.the transfiguration applies to some of the apostles at that time while others would have experiences connecting them to the prophecies in other ways." the stoning of Stephen Acts 7:54 When they heard these things, they were cut to the heart, and they gnashed on him with their teeth.55 But he, being full of the Holy Ghost, looked up stedfastly into heaven, and saw the glory of God, and Jesus standing on the right hand of God,56 And said, Behold, I see the heavens opened, and the Son of man standing on the right hand of God.57 Then they cried out with a loud voice, and stopped their ears, and ran upon him with one accord,58 And cast him out of the city, and stoned him: and the witnesses laid down their clothes at a young man's feet, whose name was Saul.59 And they stoned Stephen, calling upon God, and saying, Lord Jesus, receive my spirit." 13. These men are just not real bible scholars. When the bible challenges them to search the scriptures they just assume that the bible is defeated. But the scriputres themselves provide us answers that are ingenius that we do not have to defend but instead answers that we find as good bereans. 14. "written after" this is ad hoc reasoning. a natural reading would have the gospels being produced in the disciples lifetime as can be seen in acts 6. but the natural reading would show truth in bible prophecy. So to avoid those implications they make an elaborate system completely unsupported by history and archaeology. 15. The scoentific test of creation vs evoplution is fairly simple. Vulcanism vs neptunism. Wha? vulcanism the idea that the earth was a fireball eons and eons ago. is the evolutionary view. Neptunism the idea that the earth was watery and had no requirement of millions of years follows Peter's statement. We have found oceans of water in continents like north america and asia miles and miles below the earth. The earth has a material in the dirt known as wadselyte. This has 2% water contained in it. But the global totality of this esarth contains about 36 oceans worth of water within. Drilling several miles deep of bore holes like the russian "kola" holes found water radiating ouyt the bottum. Also lava contains deuterium which has aquatic molecules. This is significant in the sense that a vulcan molton earth would have evaporated all of this material so only the liquid would lay outside of the earths shell. So Peter has outsmarted the physicist while these scoffers are still butt hurt. 16. the "deconversion rhetoric" is code for demonic possession and apostasy. 2 Thessalonians 2:8 And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming:9 Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders,10 And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:12 That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness." 17. Death is often described as sleep. Sleep is not a chronological state. You can go into a deep sleep for many hours and not experience the passing of time. Yet you can have a short sleep and feel as is if you were asleep for hours. So is the intermediate state. Until we are brought to the physicality of the new heavens and new earth heaven will be likened to a dream. Ephesians 5:14 Wherefore he saith, Awake thou that sleepest, and arise from the dead, and Christ shall give thee light." so the end will experientially be soon. 18. The daniel prophecy is for Israel and not the christian church. that is why christ's prophecy is to the jews and dealing with the temple. The 70th week is sealed and wil be unsealed in the time jacobs trouble. 19. it may be granted that Bible Prophecy is not easy to interpret, nor was it meant to be. Parables were easier to understand than prophecy and yet christ used prophecy to separate the religious tourists from the true disciples. But once a prophecy is agreed upon we find that most prophecies have been fulfilled or they are waiting to be so. However once established to many have proved fulfillment and many have done so for long cycles. How could Moses for instance force the arabic people to be at odds with the jews 4,000 years later? 20. There is a game here. You can not learn defensively. if a child does not want to read and they fight it 100% then they won't learn and it is not the teachers fault. These men defy "occam's razor" in that they search out ways to misunderstand the lessage of scripture instead of seeking to understand the message of scripture. 21 Are these guys on a mission to erradicate gnosticism? Then why label the gnostics, christians? Since christianity expelled this groups as early as possible.? this is bigotry. 22, Sodomy is biblically demonic and walks hand in hand with insanity and depression. Accepting such practices dooms people to suicide and the many other curses of such a lifestyle. david is dooming all his freinds to sexually transmitted diseases and suicide and a host of other social curses. "accepting" these problems is telling people that you accept their disease instead of accepting their life. Why does man have no clue about sodomy and sodom and gomorrah???? This man has no clue about scripture. If he ever read a real bible he would no the word sodomy. then he would realize that sodomy is not just "homosexual" but deals with rape and child molestation and at times includes murder. https://biblesmack.blogspot.com/2013/09/homosexuality-and-curse-of-sodom.html 23. At this point these guys are following the communist party. the same attacks on faith and the same attacks on morality. first of all they are acting as a hate group. They do not imply live and let live they are out to drag people to hell and persecute people who want to stay christian. https://biblesmack.blogspot.com/2014/03/are-we-cursed-by-god-with-racism-and.html 24. Also this man is perverted. Not only because of his acceptance of homosexuality but because of his feministic castrated persona. if I was not a christian I would have been more violent and macho and not less. I don't think it is natural for a man to not want to be a leader and not want to stand up for his wife. it is not godly to encourage your wife to be a slut. And yes women are sinners just as much as men and the bible coorects them too. Whay because you should not make life about yourself you depended on your parents growing up and you need to be dependable. 25. Is it sexist to call these dudes men? They want to destroy families and destroy society. This is why caucasians are quickly becoming a minority is this atheist disease. Women should not be mothers so the family should not really exist. Or maybe women should be incompetant mothers who abuse their kids. The moral issues are sin issues. live for yourself and don;t give back after you have raped the worlds resources for the next generation. Death to the patriarchy means destroy the family to destroy independence and thus enslaving the world to tyranny. 26. creation is cursed because of man's sin. Romans 5:12 Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned:" 8:19 For the earnest expectation of the creature waiteth for the manifestation of the sons of God.20 For the creature was made subject to vanity, not willingly, but by reason of him who hath subjected the same in hope,21 Because the creature itself also shall be delivered from the bondage of corruption into the glorious liberty of the children of God.22 For we know that the whole creation groaneth and travaileth in pain together until now." https://biblesmack.blogspot.com/2014/08/debating-animals-life-and-death-before.html 27. https://biblesmack.blogspot.com/2015/12/sex-slavery-in-old-testament-really-nah.html At times it seems to me rather obvious that I guy who can't read scripture without cursing is not a guy who really ever had the experience of regeneration. Unfortunately his steal case didn't give me a "knock out blow" I don't know if it even made enough of a dent to make me shrug. But I am sure they have gotten a few people at the pep rally to chant. So bon voyage.