Interacting with a guy named sye

Sye
"A few Muslims want to meet with me to discuss "battling atheism." This was my reply:

UPDATE: Just got his response that started with... "No problem Sir and no offense taken..."

and he still wants to meet."

Me:

Sye, I understand your conviction to stay separate from the muslims in teaming up.
However, the application of the axiom
"Since the God of Chrstianity, is the only God, I would put all those who deny him in the "not God" category"
Is leading to an inference which I think is in conflict with the scripture.
that inference being that the lost are blame worthy to a level where they don't need an explanation of the gospel.

Acts 17:18 Then certain philosophers of the Epicureans, and of the Stoicks, encountered him. And some said, What will this babbler say? other some, He seemeth to be a setter forth of strange gods: because he preached unto them Jesus, and the resurrection. 19 And they took him, and brought him unto Areopagus, saying, May we know what this new doctrine, whereof thou speakest, is? 20 For thou bringest certain strange things to our ears: we would know therefore what these things mean. 21 (For all the Athenians and strangers which were there spent their time in nothing else, but either to tell, or to hear some new thing.)
22 Then Paul stood in the midst of Mars’ hill, and said, Ye men of Athens, I perceive that in all things ye are too superstitious. 23 For as I passed by, and beheld your devotions, I found an altar with this inscription, TO THE UNKNOWN GOD. Whom therefore ye ignorantly worship, him declare I unto you. 24 God that made the world and all things therein, seeing that he is Lord of heaven and earth, dwelleth not in temples made with hands;"
Notice 1st the infidels did not understand Paul as they thought he was speaking of "gods". 2nd Paul declares the Greeks ignorantly worship God.
Also, in John 4:21 Jesus saith unto her, Woman, believe me, the hour cometh, when ye shall neither in this mountain, nor yet at Jerusalem, worship the Father. 22 Ye worship ye know not what: we know what we worship: for salvation is of the Jews."
Here the Samaritan is understood to be worshipping God though in ignorance.
The Pharisees were rebuked for spiritual blindness.
matt. 15:14 Let them alone: they be blind leaders of the blind. And if the blind lead the blind, both shall fall into the ditch."
2 Cor. 4:3 But if our gospel be hid, it is hid to them that are lost: 4 in whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them. "
Conclusion: So if we live in a world where Satan blind's the world's mind, should would not all the more let the light of the gospel shine? muslims are often raised believing that their god is the God of Abraham and while there needs to be conviction of there lost estate, they also should shown the superiority of the true gospel in a demonstration of grace and the gospel.

Mark 16:15 And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature. "
Matthew 5: 14 Ye are the light of the world. A city that is set on an hill cannot be hid. 15 Neither do men light a candle, and put it under a bushel, but on a candlestick; and it giveth light unto all that are in the house."
Romans 10:13 For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved. 14 How then shall they call on him in whom they have not believed? and how shall they believe in him of whom they have not heard? and how shall they hear without a preacher? 15 and how shall they preach, except they be sent? as it is written, How beautiful are the feet of them that preach the gospel of peace, and bring glad tidings of good things! "
Assuming that all you have conveyed is in this letter implies that you have not delivered the gospel to these men.
It is a great honor to defend the faith my friend, but you must first make sure that faith is presented.
You have been given a great gift of notoriety and God will bring you opportunities to present the gospel that others won't receive and to whom much is given, much is expected.
I pray you are able to present the gospel to these men.

Ten bruggencateFar too much to address, however, if Paul never went to Athens, would the Athenians have an excuse when they stood before God?  Also, that is not my axiom. I am not a Clarkian presuppositionalist.

//"that inference being that the lost are blame worthy to a level where they don't need an explanation of the gospel."//

No. You must not be familiar with what I believe or teach. They have sufficient knowledge for their condemnation, not their salvation.

//"Assuming that all you have conveyed is in this letter implies that you have not delivered the gospel to these men."//

That's right.

//"It is a great honor to defend the faith my friend, but you must first make sure that faith is presented."//

Perhaps you can show me how you engage Muslims in the proper order so I can learn.

//"I pray you are able to present the gospel to these men."//

That is indeed the plan."FYI, just got his response that started with... "No problem Sir and no offense taken..."and he still wants to meet.Me:

Me:
" if Paul never went to Athens, would the Athenians have an excuse when they stood before God?"
Are you asserting middle knowledge? ;p

"They have sufficient knowledge for their condemnation, not their salvation"
Hence, why you should focus on giving the gospel.

"Perhaps you can show me how you engage Muslims in the proper order so I can learn."
Yeah I just did.

"FYI, just got his response that started with... "No problem Sir and no offense taken..."
and he still wants to meet."
Great! Give them the gospel :p

The Bible vs. SJW's

Morality must be reasoned before acted upon.
Hosea 4:My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge: because thou hast rejected knowledge, I will also reject thee, that thou shalt be no priest to me: seeing thou hast forgotten the law of thy God, I will also forget thy children. "
Matthew 7:7 Judge not, that ye be not judged. ² For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again. ³ And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother’s eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye? ⁴ Or how wilt thou say to thy brother, Let me pull out the mote out of thine eye; and, behold, a beam is in thine own eye? ⁵ Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother’s eye.

Luke 14:²⁸ For which of you, intending to build a tower, sitteth not down first, and counteth the cost, whether he have sufficient to finish it? ²⁹ lest haply, after he hath laid the foundation, and is not able to finish it, all that behold it begin to mock him, "

There is no peace or justice by simply fighting political and social structures
James 4:1From whence come wars and fightings among you? come they not hence, even of your lusts that war in your members? ² Ye lust, and have not: ye kill, and desire to have, and cannot obtain: ye fight and war, yet ye have not, because ye ask not. ³ Ye ask, and receive not, because ye ask amiss, that ye may consume it upon your lusts. ⁴ Ye adulterers and adulteresses, know ye not that the friendship of the world is enmity with God? whosoever therefore will be a friend of the world is the enemy of God. ⁵ Do ye think that the scripture saith in vain, The spirit that dwelleth in us lusteth to envy? ⁶ But he giveth more grace. Wherefore he saith, God resisteth the proud, but giveth grace unto the humble. ⁷ Submit yourselves therefore to God. Resist the devil, and he will flee from you. ⁸ Draw nigh to God, and he will draw nigh to you. Cleanse your hands, ye sinners; and purify your hearts, ye double minded. ⁹ Be afflicted, and mourn, and weep: let your laughter be turned to mourning, and your joy to heaviness. ¹⁰ Humble yourselves in the sight of the Lord, and he shall lift you up.¹¹ Speak not evil one of another, brethren. He that speaketh evil of his brother, and judgeth his brother, speaketh evil of the law, and judgeth the law: but if thou judge the law, thou art not a doer of the law, but a judge. ¹² There is one lawgiver, who is able to save and to destroy: who art thou that judgest another?"
2 Corinthians 10:³ For though we walk in the flesh, we do not war after the flesh: ⁴ (for the weapons of our warfare are not carnal, but mighty through God to the pulling down of strong holds;) ⁵ casting down imaginations, and every high thing that exalteth itself against the knowledge of God, and bringing into captivity every thought to the obedience of Christ; ⁶ and having in a readiness to revenge all disobedience, when your obedience is fulfilled.

⁷ Do ye look on things after the outward appearance? If any man trust to himself that he is Christ’s, let him of himself think this again, that, as he is Christ’s, even so are we Christ’s.

Man is ontologically(really) one unified creature.^{Genesis 3:20} And Adam called his wife’s name Eve; because she was the mother of all living.
Acts 17:²⁴ God that made the world and all things therein, seeing that he is Lord of heaven and earth, dwelleth not in temples made with hands; ²⁵ neither is worshipped with men’s hands, as though he needed any thing, seeing he giveth to all life, and breath, and all things; ²⁶ and hath made of one blood all nations of men for to dwell on all the face of the earth, and hath determined the times before appointed, and the bounds of their habitation; ²⁷ that they should seek the Lord, if haply they might feel after him, and find him, though he be not far from every one of us:"
Genesis 1:²⁶ And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth. ²⁷ So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them. ²⁸ And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth."
The sexes have different but unifying flesh but not a different reality of spirit.
^{Genesis 2:7} And the Lord God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul."
Genesis 2: ²⁰ And Adam gave names to all cattle, and to the fowl of the air, and to every beast of the field; but for Adam there was not found an help meet for him. ²¹ And the Lord God caused a deep sleep to fall upon Adam, and he slept: and he took one of his ribs, and closed up the flesh instead thereof; ²² and the rib, which the Lord God had taken from man, made he a woman, and brought her unto the man. ²³ And Adam said, This is now bone of my bones, and flesh of my flesh: she shall be called Woman, because she was taken out of Man."
Galatians 3: ²⁷ For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ. ²⁸ There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus."


Man's responsibility overides his victimhood
James 1:  ¹³ Let no man say when he is tempted, I am tempted of God: for God cannot be tempted with evil, neither tempteth he any man:
¹⁴ but every man is tempted, when he is drawn away of his own lust, and enticed."

God does not judge people by class, but judges them individually.
Acts 10:³⁴ Then Peter opened his mouth, and said, Of a truth I perceive that God is no respecter of persons:
³⁵ but in every nation he that feareth him, and worketh righteousness, is accepted with him. "

Ezekiel 18:1The word of the Lord came unto me again, saying, ² What mean ye, that ye use this proverb concerning the land of Israel, saying, The fathers have eaten sour grapes, and the children’s teeth are set on edge? ³ As I live, saith the Lord God, ye shall not have occasion any more to use this proverb in Israel. ⁴ Behold, all souls are mine; as the soul of the father, so also the soul of the son is mine: the soul that sinneth, it shall die.⁵ But if a man be just, and do that which is lawful and right, ⁶ and hath not eaten upon the mountains, neither hath lifted up his eyes to the idols of the house of Israel, neither hath defiled his neighbour’s wife, neither hath come near to a menstruous woman, ⁷ and hath not oppressed any, but hath restored to the debtor his pledge, hath spoiled none by violence, hath given his bread to the hungry, and hath covered the naked with a garment; ⁸ he that hath not given forth upon usury, neither hath taken any increase, that hath withdrawn his hand from iniquity, hath executed true judgment between man and man, ⁹ hath walked in my statutes, and hath kept my judgments, to deal truly; he is just, he shall surely live, saith the Lord God.¹⁰ If he beget a son that is a robber, a shedder of blood, and that doeth the like to any one of these things, ¹¹ and that doeth not any of those duties, but even hath eaten upon the mountains, and defiled his neighbour’s wife, ¹² hath oppressed the poor and needy, hath spoiled by violence, hath not restored the pledge, and hath lifted up his eyes to the idols, hath committed abomination, ¹³ hath given forth upon usury, and hath taken increase: shall he then live? he shall not live: he hath done all these abominations; he shall surely die; his blood shall be upon him.¹⁴ Now, lo, if he beget a son, that seeth all his father’s sins which he hath done, and considereth, and doeth not such like, ¹⁵ that hath not eaten upon the mountains, neither hath lifted up his eyes to the idols of the house of Israel, hath not defiled his neighbour’s wife, ¹⁶ neither hath oppressed any, hath not withholden the pledge, neither hath spoiled by violence, but hath given his bread to the hungry, and hath covered the naked with a garment, ¹⁷ that hath taken off his hand from the poor, that hath not received usury nor increase, hath executed my judgments, hath walked in my statutes; he shall not die for the iniquity of his father, he shall surely live. ¹⁸ As for his father, because he cruelly oppressed, spoiled his brother by violence, and did that which is not good among his people, lo, even he shall die in his iniquity.¹⁹ Yet say ye, Why? doth not the son bear the iniquity of the father? When the son hath done that which is lawful and right, and hath kept all my statutes, and hath done them, he shall surely live. ²⁰ The soul that sinneth, it shall die. The son shall not bear the iniquity of the father, neither shall the father bear the iniquity of the son: the righteousness of the righteous shall be upon him, and the wickedness of the wicked shall be upon him.²¹ But if the wicked will turn from all his sins that he hath committed, and keep all my statutes, and do that which is lawful and right, he shall surely live, he shall not die. ²² All his transgressions that he hath committed, they shall not be mentioned unto him: in his righteousness that he hath done he shall live. ²³ Have I any pleasure at all that the wicked should die? saith the Lord God: and not that he should return from his ways, and live?²⁴ But when the righteous turneth away from his righteousness, and committeth iniquity, and doeth according to all the abominations that the wicked man doeth, shall he live? All his righteousness that he hath done shall not be mentioned: in his trespass that he hath trespassed, and in his sin that he hath sinned, in them shall he die.²⁵ Yet ye say, The way of the Lord is not equal. Hear now, O house of Israel; Is not my way equal? are not your ways unequal? ²⁶ When a righteous man turneth away from his righteousness, and committeth iniquity, and dieth in them; for his iniquity that he hath done shall he die. ²⁷ Again, when the wicked man turneth away from his wickedness that he hath committed, and doeth that which is lawful and right, he shall save his soul alive. ²⁸ Because he considereth, and turneth away from all his transgressions that he hath committed, he shall surely live, he shall not die. ²⁹ Yet saith the house of Israel, The way of the Lord is not equal. O house of Israel, are not my ways equal? are not your ways unequal?³⁰ Therefore I will judge you, O house of Israel, every one according to his ways, saith the Lord God. Repent, and turn yourselves from all your transgressions; so iniquity shall not be your ruin. ³¹ Cast away from you all your transgressions, whereby ye have transgressed; and make you a new heart and a new spirit: for why will ye die, O house of Israel?

³² For I have no pleasure in the death of him that dieth, saith the Lord God: wherefore turn yourselves, and live ye."

We are not to desire those things which rightfully belong to others.
Exodus 20:¹⁷ Thou shalt not covet thy neighbour’s house, thou shalt not covet thy neighbour’s wife, nor his manservant, nor his maidservant, nor his ox, nor his ass, nor any thing that is
thy neighbour’s."
Psalm 10:3 For the wicked boasteth of his heart’s desire,
and blesseth the covetous, whom the Lord abhorreth."
Proverbs 28:1⁶ 6The prince that wanteth understanding is also a great oppressor:
but he that hateth covetousness shall prolong his days.
Luke 12:
¹⁵ And he said unto them, Take heed, and beware of covetousness: for a man’s life consisteth not in the abundance of the things which he possesseth. "

Our privledges come from God alone, but also are conditioned upon work as opposed to idleness.
^{James 1:16} Do not err, my beloved brethren.
¹⁷ Every good gift and every perfect gift is from above, and cometh down from the Father of lights, with whom is no variableness, neither shadow of turning."
proverbs 6:6-11 Go to the ant, thou sluggard;
consider her ways, and be wise:
⁷ which having no guide, overseer, or ruler,
⁸ provideth her meat in the summer,
and gathereth her food in the harvest.
⁹ How long wilt thou sleep, O sluggard?
when wilt thou arise out of thy sleep?
¹⁰ Yet a little sleep, a little slumber,
a little folding of the hands to sleep:
¹¹ so shall thy poverty come as one that travelleth,
and thy want as an armed man."

Vengeance belongs to God
psalm 94:1O Lord God, to whom vengeance belongeth; O God, to whom vengeance belongeth, shew thyself."

Silence is often better than running your fat mouth!
1 timothy  2 I exhort therefore, that, first of all, supplications, prayers, intercessions, and giving of thanks, be made for all men; ² for kings, and for all that are in authority; that we may lead a quiet and peaceable life in all godliness and honesty. "
Matthew 7:  ⁶ Give not that which is holy unto the dogs, neither cast ye your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn again and rend you.⁷ Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and ye shall find; knock, and it shall be opened unto you:
                                         

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