Monday, August 10, 2015

From Ark to Zoo: A biblical view of zoology





A matter of life and death
"What a difference!  In evolutionary thinking. time, chance struggle and death produce "new and improved" forms of life.  In biblical thinking, chance and struggle produce disease, decline and death.  Evolution begins with dead things; living things living things -including us- are temporary intruders in the universe, and when the sun burns out, death wins at last.  The bible begins with the life of God; death is a temporary intruder and eternal life wins at christ return." pg14 Gary Parker Creation Facts of Life
   Dr. Parker has all the credentials as a former evolutionary biologist with scores of academic awards including a "science faculty fellowship"   from the National Science Foundation. The common charge of not understanding evolution can not be taken seriously against this fellow who made a living indoctrinating college students into it,  Yet he is now a Young Earth Christian Creationist.  Core to Parker's shift in worldview was the principle's of life and death.
John 10:10 The thief cometh not, but for to steal, and to kill, and to destroy: I am come that they might have life, and that they might have it more abundantly."
   Many of the false religions of Satan have way of glamorizing death.  In the religion of evolution, death is seen as a way of salvation for the world system.  Death is a purification of populations of species etc.
But reality is on the side of the Biblical worldview.  Funerals are not the place for celebrating.  Some in modern times have tried to make it so.  But in reality, death is sad and people will always mourn it.
https://legacy-cdn-assets.answersingenesis.org/images/articles/2011/07/evolution-creation-death.jpg

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/design: to plan and make decisions about (something that is being built or created) : to create the plans, drawings, etc., that show how (something) will be made
: to plan and make (something) for a specific use or purpose
: to think of (something, such as a plan) : to plan (something) in your mind"
http://relifemed.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/stem-cell-pic.png
Abiogenis: evolution of a theory demoted to a hypothesis.

 "from 1980 on NASA scientist have shown that the primitive earth never had any methane, ammonia or hydrogen to amount to anything." he said "Instead, it was composed of water, carbon dioxide and nitrogen---and you absolutely cannot get the same experimental results with that mixture.  It just won't work.  More recent experiments have confirmed this to be the case."Walter L. Bradley

There are even atheist who are beginning to doubt the neo-darwinian paradigm!
“…I believe there are independent empirical reasons to be skeptical about the truth of reductionism in biology. Physico-chemical reductionism in biology is the orthodox view, and any resistance to it is regarded as not only scientifically but politically incorrect. But for a long time I have the materialist account of how we and our fellow organisms came to exist hard to believe, including the standard version of how the evolutionary process works. The more details we learn about the chemical basis of life and the intricacy of the genetic code, the more unbelievable the standard historical account becomes. This is just the opinion of a layman who reads widely in the literature that explains contemporary science to the nonspecialist. Perhaps that literature presents the situation with a simplicity and confidence that does not reflect the most sophisticated scientific thought in those areas. But it seems to me that, as it is usually presented, the current orthodoxy about the cosmic order is the product of governing assumptions that are unsupported, and that it flies in the face of common sense."
http://wallacegsmith.wordpress.com/2012/12/10/an-atheist-against-neo-darwinistic-evolution/
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Abiogensis was a natural aspect of the evolutionary theory
"Abiogenesis, the rise of life from non-living molecules is obviously possible because it happened."
 http://www.proof-of-evolution.com/abiogenesis.html
However, spontaneous generation of life from non-life was dead in the water and has been dead for over a century!
" Louis Pasteur (/ˈli pæˈstɜr/, French: [lwi pastœʁ]; December 27, 1822 – September 28, 1895) was a French chemist and microbiologist renowned for his discoveries of the principles of vaccination, microbial fermentation and pasteurization. He is remembered for his remarkable breakthroughs in the causes and preventions of diseases, and his discoveries have saved countless lives ever since. He reduced mortality from puerperal fever, and created the first vaccines for rabies and anthrax. His medical discoveries provided direct support for the germ theory of disease and its application in clinical medicine. He is best known to the general public for his invention of the technique of treating milk and wine to stop bacterial contamination, a process now called pasteurization. He is regarded as one of the three main founders of bacteriology, together with Ferdinand Cohn and Robert Koch, and is popularly known as the "father of microbiology".[3][4][5]
Pasteur was responsible for crushing the doctrine of spontaneous generation. He performed experiments that showed that without contamination, microorganisms could not develop. Under the auspices of the French Academy of Sciences, he demonstrated that in sterilized and sealed flasks nothing ever developed, and in sterilized but open flasks microorganisms could grow. This experiment won him the Alhumbert Prize of the academy.[6]"
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Louis_Pasteur


The assumption of macro-evolution is in the Uniformitarian hypothesis.  The idea that everything is in a closed system propels this speculation. However, if there is a break in the closed system then there can be others.  If we need a miracle to postulate life,  Why not several miracles?  We need God to make a cell; why not have God make animals and other species? God is omnipotent so once we invoke Him, then He is a regular factor.  Some have invoke aliens instead. But the aliens have godlike power to begin with just by crossing such massive distances.  Plus we would have to figure out how they came into existence.
 http://rna.ucsc.edu/rnacenter/images/figs/thermus_16s_2ndry.jpg
SO YOU SAY THERE IS A CHANCE!!
Recent evolutionary mathematicians have argued the possibility of RNA forming and thus proving abiogenesis.   "I've argued here that RNA has been produced in a laboratory and that evidence exists that RNA might have formed in the early earth environment. This is not proof. Abiogenesis, as a field of scientific inquiry, is still in its infancy. It is not very far down the road of an accepted theory."http://www.proof-of-evolution.com/abiogenesis.html
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Let us consider some of the difficulties:
  1. First, as we have seen, it is not even clear that the primitive Earth would have generated and maintained organic molecules. All that we can say is that there might have been prevital organic chemistry going on, at least in special locations.
  2. Second, high-energy precursors of purines and pyrimidines had to be produced in a sufficiently concentrated form (for example at least 0.01 M HCN).
  3. Third, the conditions must now have been right for reactions to give perceptible yields of at least two bases that could pair with each other.
  4. Fourth, these bases must then have been separated from the confusing jumble of similar molecules that would also have been made, and the solutions must have been sufficiently concentrated.
  5. Fifth, in some other location a formaldehyde concentration of above 0.01 M must have built up.
  6. Sixth, this accumulated formaldehyde had to oligomerise to sugars.
  7. Seventh, somehow the sugars must have been separated and resolved, so as to give a moderately good concentration of, for example, D-ribose.
  8. Eighth, bases and sugars must now have come together.
  9. Ninth, they must have been induced to react to make nucleosides. (There are no known ways of bringing about this thermodynamically uphill reaction in aqueous solution: purine nucleosides have been made by dry-phase synthesis, but not even this method has been successful for condensing pyrimidine bases and ribose to give nucleosides (Orgel & Lohrmann, 1974).)
  10. Tenth, whatever the mode of joining base and sugar it had to be between the correct nitrogen atom of the base and the correct carbon atom of the sugar. This junction will fix the pentose sugar as either the alpha or beta-anomer of either the furanose or pyranose forms (see page 29). For nucleic acids it has to be the beta-furanose. (In the dry-phase purine nucleoside syntheses referred to above, all four of these isomers were present with never more than 8 % of the correct structure.)
  11. Eleventh, phosphate must have been, or must now come to have been, present at reasonable concentrations. (The concentrations in the oceans would have been very low, so we must think about special situations—evaporating lagoons and such things (Ponnamperuma, 1978).)
  12. Twelfth, the phosphate must be activated in some way—for example as a linear or cyclic polyphosphate—so that (energetically uphill) phosphorylation of the nucleoside is possible.
  13. Thirteenth, to make standard nucleotides only the 5′hydroxyl of the ribose should be phosphorylated. (In solid-state reactions with urea and inorganic phosphates as a phosphorylating agent, this was the dominant species to begin with (Lohrmann & Orgel, 1971). Longer heating gave the nucleoside cyclic 2′,3′-phosphate as the major product although various dinucleotide derivatives and nucleoside polyphosphates are also formed (Osterberg, Orgel & Lohrmann. 1973).)
  14. Fourteenth, if not already activated—for example as the cyclic 2′,3′-phosphate—the nucleotides must now be activated (for example with polyphosphate; Lohrmann, 1976) and a reasonably pure solution of these species created of reasonable concentration. Alternatively, a suitable coupling agent must now have been fed into the system.
  15. Fifteenth, the activated nucleotides (or the nucleotides with coupling agent) must now have polymerised. Initially this must have happened without a pre-existing polynucleotide template (this has proved very difficult to simulate (Orgel & Lohrmann. 1974)); but more important, it must have come to take place on pre-existing polynucleotides if the key function of transmitting information to daughter molecules was to be achieved by abiotic means. This has proved difficult too. Orgel & Lohrmann give three main classes of problem:
    • While it has been shown that adenosine derivatives form stable helical structures with poly(U)—they are in fact triple helixes—and while this enhances the condensation of adenylic acid with either adenosine or another adenylic acid—mainly to di(A) stable helical structures were not formed when either poly (A) or poly(G) were used as templates.
    • It was difficult to find a suitable means of making the internucleotide bonds. Specially designed water-soluble carbodiimides were used in the experiments described above, but the obvious pre-activated nucleotides—ATP or cyclic 2′,3′-phosphates—were unsatisfactory. Nucleoside 5′-phosphorimidazolides, for example were more successful, but these now involve further steps and a supply of imidazole, for their synthesis (Lohrmann & Orgel, 1978).
    • Internucleotide bonds formed on a template are usually a mixture of 2′-5′ and the normal 3′-5′ types. Often the 2′-5′ bonds predominate although it has been found that Zn2+, as well as acting as an efficient catalyst for the template-directed oligomerisation of guanosine 5′-phosphorimidazolide also leads to a preference for the 3′-5′ bonds (Lohrmann, Bridson & Orgel, 1980).
  16. Sixteenth, the physical and chemical environment must at all times have been suitable—for example the pH, the temperature, the M2+ concentrations.
  17. Seventeenth, all reactions must have taken place well out of the ultraviolet sunlight; that is, not only away from its direct, highly destructive effects on nucleic acid-like molecules, but away too from the radicals produced by the sunlight, and from the various longer lived reactive species produced by these radicals.
  18. Eighteenth, unlike polypeptides, where you can easily imagine functions for imprecisely made products (for capsules, ionexchange materials, etc.), a genetic material must work rather well to be any use at all—otherwise it will quickly let slip any information that it has managed to accumulate.
  19. Nineteenth, what is required here is not some wild one-off freak of an event: it is not true to say ‘it only had to happen once’. A whole set-up had to be maintained for perhaps millions of years: a reliable means of production of activated nucleotides at the least."http://creation.com/cairns-smith-detailed-criticisms-of-the-rna-world-hypothesis

step 2!:
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There are no species of 2 celled animals.  If we have formed from 1 celled organisms then wouldn't there have been a 2 celled species?
"Many single-celled forms of life exist, but no known forms of animal life have 2,3,4, or 5, cells. Known forms of life with 6-20 cells are parasites, so they must have a complex animal as a host to provide such functions as respiration and digestion.  If macro evolution happened, one should find many transitional forms of life with 2-20 cells -filling the gap between and many celled organisms."Dr. Walt Brown In the beginning compelling evidence for creation and the flood pg.10

"colonial forms of life are an unlikely bridge between single celled life and multicelled life.  The degree of cedlular differentiation between colonial forms of life and the simplest multicellular forms of life is vast.  For a further discussion, see Libbie Henreitta Hyman, The Invertebrates protozoa through Ctenophora Vol.1 (New York: Mcgraw-Hill, 1940) pp. 248-255."  pg 60

Genetic entropy:
 
Over each generation small mutations loose genetic information.  Even given the most liberal assumptions cells loose much  more DNA than they could ever acquire.  Given millions of years to cycle life would  fall apart instead of advance.

" Modern genomics provides the ability to screen the DNA of a wide variety of organisms to scrutinize broken metabolic pathways. This wealth of data has revealed wide-spread genetic entropy in human and other genomes. Loss of the vitamin C pathway due to deletions in the GULO (L-gulonolactone oxidase) gene has been detected in humans, apes, guinea pigs, bats, mice, rats, pigs, and passerine birds. Contrary to the popularized claims of some evolutionists and neo-creationists, patterns of GULO degradation are taxonomically restricted and fail to support macroevolution. Current research and data reported here show that multiple GULO exon losses in human, chimpanzee, and gorilla occurred independently in each taxon and are associated with regions containing a wide variety of transposable element fragments. Thus, they are another example of sequence deletions occurring via unequal recombination associated with transposable element repeats. The 28,800 base human GULO region is only 84% and 87% identical compared to chimpanzee and gorilla, respectively. The 13,000 bases preceding the human GULO gene, which corresponds to the putative area of loss for at least two major exons, is only 68% and 73% identical to chimpanzee and gorilla, respectively. These DNA similarities are inconsistent with predictions of the common ancestry paradigm. Further, gorilla is considerably more similar to human in this region than chimpanzee—negating the inferred order of phylogeny. Taxonomically restricted gene degradation events are emerging as a common theme associated with genetic entropy and systematic discontinuity, not macroevolution." https://answersingenesis.org/genetics/human-gulo-pseudogene-evidence-evolutionary-discontinuity-and-genetic-entropy/
"Two recent research studies performed by secular scientists support genetic entropy. Their data were based on rare single-nucleotide variation observed in the protein-coding regions of the human genome. Over 80% of this variation was associated with genetic entropy exhibited by heritable diseases.3-7 Because protein-coding regions are less tolerant of mutation than other parts of the genome, these regions give more reliable historical genetic information."
http://www.icr.org/article/8374/

No junk in the DNA trunk!
Evolutionist have been known to argue for junk DNA.  DNA which is genetically useless developing in micro evolution.
http://www.news-medical.net/health/What-is-Junk-DNA.aspx"The proportion of coding versus noncoding DNA varies significantly between species. In the human genome for example, almost all (98%) of the DNA is noncoding, while in bacteria, only 2% of the genetic material does not code for anything."

http://healthland.time.com/2012/09/06/junk-dna-not-so-useless-after-all/
"Junk. Barren. Non-functioning. Dark matter. That’s how scientists had described the 98% of human genome that lies between our 21,000 genes, ever since our DNA was first sequenced about a decade ago. The disappointment in those descriptors was intentional and palpable.
It had been believed that the human genome — the underpinnings of the blueprint for the talking, empire-building, socially evolved species that we are — would be stuffed with sophisticated genes, coding for critical proteins of unparalleled complexity. But when all was said and done, and the Human Genome Project finally determined the entire sequence of our DNA in 2001, researchers found that the 3 billion base pairs that comprised our mere 21,000 genes made up a paltry 2% of the entire genome. The rest, geneticists acknowledged with unconcealed embarrassment, was an apparent biological wasteland.
But it turns out they were wrong. In an impressive series of more than 30 papers published in several journals, including Nature, Genome Research, Genome Biology, Science and Cell, scientists now report that these vast stretches of seeming “junk” DNA are actually the seat of crucial gene-controlling activity — changes that contribute to hundreds of common diseases. The new data come from the Encyclopedia of DNA Elements project, or ENCODE, a $123 million endeavor begun by the National Human Genome Research Institute (NHGRI) in 2003, which includes 442 scientists in 32 labs around the world.
(MORE: Decoding Cancer: Scientists Release 520 Tumor Genomes from Pediatric Patients)
ENCODE has revealed that some 80% of the human genome is biochemically active. “What is remarkable is how much of [the genome] is doing at least something. It has changed my perception of the genome,” says Ewan Birney, ENCODE’s lead analysis coordinator from the European Bioinformatics Institute.
Rather than being inert, the portions of DNA that do not code for genes contain about 4 million so-called gene switches, transcription factors that control when our genes turn on and off and how much protein they make, not only affecting all the cells and organs in our body, but doing so at different points in our lifetime. Somewhere amidst that 80% of DNA, for example, lie the instructions that coax an uncommitted cell in a growing embryo to form a brain neuron, or direct a cell in the pancreas to churn out insulin after a meal, or guide a skin cell to bud off and replace a predecessor that has sloughed off.
“What we learned from ENCODE is how complicated the human genome is, and the incredible choreography that is going on with the immense number of switches that are choreographing how genes are used,” Eric Green, director of NHGRI, told reporters during a teleconference discussing the findings. “We are starting to answer fundamental questions like what are the working parts of the human genome, the parts list of the human genome and what those parts do.”

Intelligent design
SCIENTISTS STORE MASSIVE AMOUNTS OF INFORMATION ON DNA THROUGH THE PROCESS OF BLIND CHANCE (Friday Church News Notes, December 19, 2014, www.wayoflife.org, fbns@wayoflife.org, 866-295-4143) - Two scientists have successfully stored 700 terabytes of data on DNA, including a copy of a multimedia book, breaking the previous record by a thousand times. George Church and Sriram Kosuri of the Wyss Institute at the Harvard Medical School stored this massive amount of information on about one gram of DNA (“Harvard cracks DNA storage,” Extreme Tech, Aug. 17, 2012). The stored information is equivalent to 233 3TB hard drives. As a test, the scientists made 70 billion copies of the DNA containing the information. They can foresee the day when “the entirety of human knowledge--every book, uttered word, and funny cat video--can be stored in a few hundred kilos of DNA.” Now, let us address the title of this report: “Scientists Store Massive Amounts of Information on DNA through the Process of Blind Chance.

So intelligent that technology borrows from biology for ideas!
 http://www.creationmoments.com/radio/transcripts/humans-copy-creator
 "Studies of the vision of the horseshoe crab, supposedly one of the earlier forms of life, have taught engineers how to produce a clearer, sharper television picture. The United States Air Force copied a speed-sensing system from beetles to improve the ground speed indicators of their jets. The optics of a frog's eye showed them how to improve their radar. The fly's multifaceted eye taught engineers how to design a lighting system that generates more light with less energy."
   So evolution teaches that there is no intelligent designer.  Perhaps some deistic entity that works through randomness.  But life is to be free from design.  we understand that technology is the design of man.  But how can mindless chance become more intelligent than man to the point where Man looks to mindless chance in hopes of greater intelligence and guidance?
"DeYoung pointed out that though the automotive engineers had gone to the aquarium to design a car patterned after the sleek shark, the vehicles Daimler Chrysler ended up basing their automobile designs on was the boxfish. And it wasn't just the fish's shape that they copied. By patterning the door panels after the hexagonal skin pattern of the fish, the cars were found to excel in safety, comfort, maneuverability and environmental friendliness. The compact cars even boasted excellent gas mileage to as high as 70 miles per gallon!"https://youtu.be/U3LPjBA7z2s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U3LPjBA7z2s

In fact there have been Insects with gears identical to mechanical gears!
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Irreducible complexity

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"‘What type of biological system could not be formed by “numerous, successive, slight modifications”? Well, for starters, a system that is irreducibly complex. By irreducibly complex, I mean a single system composed of several well-matched, interacting parts that contribute to the basic function, wherein the removal of any one of the parts causes the system to effectively cease functioning. An irreducibly complex system cannot be produced directly (that is, by continuously improving the initial function, which continues to work by the same mechanism) by slight, successive modifications of a precursor system, because any precursor to an irreducibly complex system that is missing a part is by definition non-functional’ [italics in original]."Behe, M.J., Darwin’s Black Box, Free Press, New York, p. 39, 1996.
https://answersingenesis.org/evidence-against-evolution/irreducible-complexity-some-candid-admissions-by-evolutionists/


How natural selection can drive the evolution of complex molecular systems – those in which the function of each part depends on its interactions with the other parts--has been an unsolved issue in evolutionary biology. Advocates of Intelligent Design argue that such systems are "irreducibly complex" and thus incompatible with gradual evolution by natural selection.

Read more at: http://phys.org/news/2006-04-evolution-irreducible-complexity.html#jCp
How natural selection can drive the evolution of complex molecular systems – those in which the function of each part depends on its interactions with the other parts--has been an unsolved issue in evolutionary biology. Advocates of Intelligent Design argue that such systems are "irreducibly complex" and thus incompatible with gradual evolution by natural selection.

Read more at: http://phys.org/news/2006-04-evolution-irreducible-complexity.html#jCp
How natural selection can drive the evolution of complex molecular systems – those in which the function of each part depends on its interactions with the other parts--has been an unsolved issue in evolutionary biology. Advocates of Intelligent Design argue that such systems are "irreducibly complex" and thus incompatible with gradual evolution by natural selection.

Read more at: http://phys.org/news/2006-04-evolution-irreducible-complexity.html#jCp
diggin up bones
      "...Intermediate links?  Geology assuredly does not  reveal any such finely graduated organic change, and this is perhaps the most obvious and serious objection which can be urged against the theory."  On the imperfection of the geologic record Charles Darwin

"We find mammals in almost all of our (dinosaur dig ) sites . These were not noticed years ago . We have about 20,000 pounds bentonite clay that has mammal fossils that we are trying to give away to some researcher . It's not that they are not important , it's just that you only live once and I specialized in something other than mammals . I specialize in reptiles and dinosaurs ."
Interview with Dr Donald Burge, curator of vertebrate paleontology, College of Eastern Utah Prehistoric Museum by Dr Carl Werner, 13 February 2001, in Living Fossils—Evolution: The Grand Experiment, Vol. 2, New Leaf Press, 2009, p. 173

Whale evolution.. or a fish tale?
http://coast.noaa.gov/psc/sea/sites/default/files/Grade%204%20Unit%204%20Lesson%201%20Whale%20Evolution-1.png?redirect=301ocm http://www.icr.org/i/stage_248/whalelegs_stage.jpg
"But this assumes the point in question. Are whale hips indeed adapted—or, rather, designed—for limb articulation and not as support for their reproductive organs? Since the whale “pelvic girdle” does not even link to its spine, legs attached to a whale’s pelvis would only get in the way. This new research shows that whale hips are not designed for limb articulation at all, but for another important job involving God’s command from Genesis to “fill the earth.”
 http://www.icr.org/article/vital-function-found-for-whale-leg
Whales use their hips for sexual reproduction, the idea that these bones are for walking is kind of.... stupid.


A. How can we accurately map evolution?
http://www.newtonsapple.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/Evolutionary-Tree-Simplified-copy.jpg

B.  Why not a crocoduck?http://tse3.mm.bing.net/th?id=JN.Xdc6hEwe6sR%2b5dxeJjt5Dg&w=244&h=176&c=7&rs=1&qlt=90&o=4&pid=1.1
 This argument appears flimsy; but the point is that much of Evolutionary theory uses imagination to create animals in it's family tree.  But when we talk about the massive changes of macro evolution and give unlimited time scales then we can come up with all sorts of mythical animals and call it science.

C.  How do we really know the ages?
  "Because radiocarbon decays relatively quickly, fossils that are even 100,000 years old should have virtually no radiocarbon left in them.1 But they do.
Jurassic World characters repeatedly mention "million years ago" in the context of their dinosaurs. In the movie, fictional scientists essentially resurrect and genetically redesign dinosaurs, pterosaurs, and even a giant mosasaur—creatures supposedly extinct for 65-75 million years.
The CRSQ study authors tested seven dinosaur bones, including a Triceratops from Montana, hadrosaurids, a cartilaginous paddlefish, a bony fish, and fresh-looking wood and lizard bones from Permian layers in Canada and Oklahoma. Five different commercial and academic laboratories detected carbon-14 in all the samples, whether from Cenozoic, Mesozoic, or Paleozoic source rocks. How did that radiocarbon get there?
The team also compared the results to several dozen published carbon-14 results for fossils, wood, and coal from all over the world and throughout the geologic column. Comparable amounts of radiocarbon showed up in almost 50 total samples.2"
 http://www.icr.org/article/8822  


Ecosystems: Environmentalist have always focused on the fragility of the environment.  but if environments are fragile then does this not point to a design which has certain limits?

Coevolution is defined as:
‘joint evolution of two
    or more non-interbreeding species that have a close ecological relationship;
through reciprocal selective pressures, the evolution of one species in the relationship is partially dependent on the evolution of the other [emphasis
added].’
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The problem is, since coevolution requires already
existing ecological relationships, it cannot account for the
origin of ecology.
It is possible for two species in close ecological relationship to refine their relationship through mutual selection, but this does not explain how they came to be ecologically related in the first place. There must be some other explanation.
On the contrary, accumulating evidence from ecology
and biodiversity studies suggests something quite different
from gradual evolutionary accumulation of species and step
by step development of what would eventually become
essential ecological relationships. The current
indispensable nature of many ‘ecological services’, and the relationships that provide them, suggests that, just as ecological services are necessary now, past ecosystems would also have needed them, but not necessarily in identical ways. Moreover, the essential nature of ecological relationships now does not appear to allow time for evolutionary development of ecology.
Ecosystems would have failed many times over without the
full range of ecological services" https://creation.com/images/pdfs/tj/j14_2/j14_2_82-90.pdf


ARK-EOLOGY) How did they fit all the animals in the ark?
I think we should be careful to remember that when we discuss species we should be careful to note what we mean.
     1. kinds not species.
      2.  plants, fish, microbiology need not apply
    3.  ark size

"Advanced physics students at Leicester University were tasked with determining if the Biblical dimensions of Noah's ark—assuming it was properly constructed—could have supported the mass of 70,000 animals. Student Kayie Raymer told UK's The Telegraph that after other "more serious" assignments, this one was "something different."1 What did they find?
The students used 48.2cm (almost 19 inches) as the length of a cubit to estimate the total dimensions of the ark. Using the density of water and Archimedes' principle of buoyancy, they calculated the total mass the ark could contain without sinking.
"Previous research has suggested that there were approximately 35,000 species of animals which would have needed to be saved by Noah," according to The Telegraph, though they cited no source for this estimate. Doubling this number to account for a male and female of each species, the student group estimated that the ark needed to have held approximately 70,000 creatures. To the students' surprise, they found that this amount did not exceed the total mass the ark could contain. Physics student Thomas Morris told The Telegraph, "You don't think of the Bible necessarily as a scientifically accurate source of information, so I guess we were quite surprised when we discovered it would work." The students published their results in Leicester University's Journal of Physics Special Topics.
The students' results at the ark having 70,000 creatures actually exceed biblical expectations, giving further assurance that the ark could hold all that it needed—including food and even water."
Knapton, S. Noah's Ark would have floated...even with 70,000 animals. The Telegraph. Posted on telegraph.co.uk April 3, 2014, accessed April 3, 2014
 http://www.icr.org/article/students-surprised-find-noahs-ark-feasible/


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    4. post flood speciation
"Some people who object to a recent-creation interpretation of Genesis point to the fact that such a view requires that all modern animal species on earth must have descended from these same species saved on the Ark. If the Ark had roughly 30,000 animals (less than 15,000 species or different kinds), how could the animals on the Ark produce millions of species within a few hundred, or a few thousand, years after the Flood? Surely this would require a faster evolutionary rate than even the most ardent evolutionist would propose.
However, it is not correct to assume that a few thousand species would have produced the millions of species extant (alive) today. There are fewer than 30,000 extant species of mammals, birds, reptiles, and possibly land-reproducing amphibians (many salamanders) that were represented on the Ark. The millions of other species are the invertebrates (>95 percent of all animal species), fish, and a few aquatic mammals and reptiles that survived in the water during the Flood. The processes of speciation discussed above need to only double the number of animal species from 15,000 to 30,000. This is certainly a feasible process based on observable science."http://www.icr.org/article/speciation-animals-ark/

Lions and dragons and unicorns, Oh My!!
Behemoth
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Job 40:15 Behold now behemoth, which I made with thee; he eateth grass as an ox.
16 Lo now, his strength is in his loins, and his force is in the navel of his belly.
17 He moveth his tail like a cedar: the sinews of his stones are wrapped together.
18 His bones are as strong pieces of brass; his bones are like bars of iron.
19 He is the chief of the ways of God: he that made him can make his sword to approach unto him.
20 Surely the mountains bring him forth food, where all the beasts of the field play.
21 He lieth under the shady trees, in the covert of the reed, and fens.
22 The shady trees cover him with their shadow; the willows of the brook compass him about.
23 Behold, he drinketh up a river, and hasteth not: he trusteth that he can draw up Jordan into his mouth.
24 He taketh it with his eyes: his nose pierceth through snares.
 Leviathan
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41 Canst thou draw out leviathan with an hook? or his tongue with a cord which thou lettest down?
Canst thou put an hook into his nose? or bore his jaw through with a thorn?
Will he make many supplications unto thee? will he speak soft words unto thee?
Will he make a covenant with thee? wilt thou take him for a servant for ever?
Wilt thou play with him as with a bird? or wilt thou bind him for thy maidens?
Shall the companions make a banquet of him? shall they part him among the merchants?
Canst thou fill his skin with barbed irons? or his head with fish spears?
Lay thine hand upon him, remember the battle, do no more.
Behold, the hope of him is in vain: shall not one be cast down even at the sight of him?
10 None is so fierce that dare stir him up: who then is able to stand before me?
11 Who hath prevented me, that I should repay him? whatsoever is under the whole heaven is mine.
12 I will not conceal his parts, nor his power, nor his comely proportion.
13 Who can discover the face of his garment? or who can come to him with his double bridle?
14 Who can open the doors of his face? his teeth are terrible round about.
15 His scales are his pride, shut up together as with a close seal.
16 One is so near to another, that no air can come between them.
17 They are joined one to another, they stick together, that they cannot be sundered.
18 By his neesings a light doth shine, and his eyes are like the eyelids of the morning.
19 Out of his mouth go burning lamps, and sparks of fire leap out.
20 Out of his nostrils goeth smoke, as out of a seething pot or caldron.
21 His breath kindleth coals, and a flame goeth out of his mouth.
22 In his neck remaineth strength, and sorrow is turned into joy before him.
23 The flakes of his flesh are joined together: they are firm in themselves; they cannot be moved.
24 His heart is as firm as a stone; yea, as hard as a piece of the nether millstone.
25 When he raiseth up himself, the mighty are afraid: by reason of breakings they purify themselves.
26 The sword of him that layeth at him cannot hold: the spear, the dart, nor the habergeon.
27 He esteemeth iron as straw, and brass as rotten wood.
28 The arrow cannot make him flee: slingstones are turned with him into stubble.
29 Darts are counted as stubble: he laugheth at the shaking of a spear.
30 Sharp stones are under him: he spreadeth sharp pointed things upon the mire.
31 He maketh the deep to boil like a pot: he maketh the sea like a pot of ointment.
32 He maketh a path to shine after him; one would think the deep to be hoary.
33 Upon earth there is not his like, who is made without fear.
34 He beholdeth all high things: he is a king over all the children of pride.



 scriptures that reference dragons.....

http://i1.wp.com/www.yecheadquarters.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/Part-2b-Cave-Men1.jpgSlide1991.jpg?resize=576%2C432http://www.yecheadquarters.org/?p=596



their wine is the poison of dragons, and the cruel venom of asps.
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And I went out by night by the gate of the valley, even before the dragon well, and to the dung port, and viewed the walls of Jerusalem, which were broken down, and the gates thereof were consumed with fire.
http://www.webweaver.nu/watermarked/fantasy/dragons/snake-dragon-in-well.gif
I am a brother to dragons, and a companion to owls.
http://tse1.mm.bing.net/th?&id=JN.c0hYjCIkXsffc88yi5glEg&w=300&h=300&c=0&pid=1.9&rs=0&p=0
though thou hast sore broken us in the place of dragons, and covered us with the shadow of death.
http://powerpointparadise.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/Dragon-Shang.jpg
Thou didst divide the sea by thy strength: thou brakest the heads of the dragons in the waters.

Thou shalt tread upon the lion and adder: the young lion and the dragon shalt thou trample under feet.
http://static.squarespace.com/static/51ca804ce4b0ff1650b3d00a/t/5211940ae4b004f80b4b50b8/1376883725208/Triceratops.jpg
Ica stones made by the ancient Incas     http://static.squarespace.com/static/51ca804ce4b0ff1650b3d00a/t/5211940ae4b004f80b4b50b8/1376883725208/Triceratops.jpg
Psalm 148:7
Praise the Lord from the earth, ye dragons, and all deeps:
And the wild beasts of the islands shall cry in their desolate houses, and dragons in their pleasant palaces: and her time is near to come, and her days shall not be prolonged.
http://www.powerpointparadise.com/krokopardalis.jpg
In that day the Lord with his sore and great and strong sword shall punish leviathan the piercing serpent, even leviathan that crooked serpent; and he shall slay the dragon that is in the sea.

And thorns shall come up in her palaces, nettles and brambles in the fortresses thereof: and it shall be an habitation of dragons, and a court for owls.
http://powerpointparadise.com/livedragons/TarasqueStatue.jpg
And the parched ground shall become a pool, and the thirsty land springs of water: in the habitation of dragons, where each lay, shall be grass with reeds and rushes.
The beast of the field shall honour me, the dragons and the owls: because I give waters in the wilderness, and rivers in the desert, to give drink to my people, my chosen.
Awake, awake, put on strength, O arm of the Lord; awake, as in the ancient days, in the generations of old. Art thou not it that hath cut Rahab, and wounded the dragon?
And I will make Jerusalem heaps, and a den of dragons; and I will make the cities of Judah desolate, without an inhabitant.
http://media-cache-ec0.pinimg.com/736x/7f/db/08/7fdb088d70b5862780c22a51175b589d.jpg
Behold, the noise of the bruit is come, and a great commotion out of the north country, to make the cities of Judah desolate, and a den of dragons.
And the wild asses did stand in the high places, they snuffed up the wind like dragons; their eyes did fail, because there was no grass.
And Hazor shall be a dwelling for dragons, and a desolation for ever: there shall no man abide there, nor any son of man dwell in it.
 http://www.bible-history.com/archaeology/babylon/dragon-marduk.jpg

Nebuchadrezzar the king of Babylon hath devoured me, he hath crushed me, he hath made me an empty vessel, he hath swallowed me up like a dragon, he hath filled his belly with my delicates, he hath cast me out.
And Babylon shall become heaps, a dwellingplace for dragons, an astonishment, and an hissing, without an inhabitant.
speak, and say, Thus saith the Lord God; Behold, I am against thee, Pharaoh king of Egypt, the great dragon that lieth in the midst of his rivers, which hath said, My river is mine own, and I have made it for myself.
Therefore I will wail and howl, I will go stripped and naked: I will make a wailing like the dragons, and mourning as the owls.

and I hated Esau, and laid his mountains and his heritage waste for the dragons of the wilderness.proof of dragons as dinosaurs.

Is fire breathing possible?
bombadier bettle
https://youtu.be/lKM9yoQ3Wug
"When threatened, bombardier beetles spray the suspected attacker with a boiling hot mixture of caustic chemicals. The predator hears a loud pop, then finds itself bathed in a cloud of toxins reaching 212° F (100° C). Even more impressive, the bombardier beetle can aim the poisonous eruption in the direction of the harasser.
The beetle itself is not harmed by the fiery chemical reaction. Using two special chambers inside the abdomen, the bombardier beetle mixes potent chemicals and uses an enzymatic trigger to heat and release them."http://insects.about.com/od/coolandunusualinsects/a/bombdefenses.htm

Unicorns

http://tse1.mm.bing.net/th?&id=JN.53hSyJPuu5EPnoSdvJZf8w&w=300&h=300&c=0&pid=1.9&rs=0&p=0

https://youtu.be/-ib9rC62mdw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ib9rC62mdw&feature=youtu.be

Unicorns were not horned horses of victorian myhtology.  It was most likely this breed of rhinoceros, among other one horned beasts.



God brought them out of Egypt; he hath as it were the strength of an unicorn.
God brought him forth out of Egypt; he hath as it were the strength of an unicorn: he shall eat up the nations his enemies, and shall break their bones, and pierce them through with his arrows.
http://tse3.mm.bing.net/th?id=JN.Yu%2ftKWzaEpPQK9OpCLyyig&pid=15.1  (one possibility...)
His glory is like the firstling of his bullock, and his horns are like the horns of unicorns: with them he shall push the people together to the ends of the earth: and they are the ten thousands of Ephraim, and they are the thousands of Manasseh.
http://media-cache-ec0.pinimg.com/736x/7f/7a/c6/7f7ac6a4d0a172589487fc4ac0f21080.jpg
Will the unicorn be willing to serve thee, or abide by thy crib?
http://assets.worldwildlife.org/photos/1385/images/story_full_width/Greater_One_Horned_Rhino_8.6.2012_Hero_and_Circle_HI_107996.jpg?1345593410
Canst thou bind the unicorn with his band in the furrow? or will he harrow the valleys after thee?
http://i2.wp.com/listverse.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/mark_eotriceratops0041-1.jpg?resize=550%2C432 http://media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/8e/b5/ab/8eb5ab1aa3935b62cda6865714985653.jpg (another possibility)
Save me from the lion's mouth: for thou hast heard me from the horns of the unicorns.
He maketh them also to skip like a calf; Lebanon and Sirion like a young unicorn.
But my horn shalt thou exalt like the horn of an unicorn: I shall be anointed with fresh oil.

And the unicorns shall come down with them, and the bullocks with the bulls; and their land shall be soaked with blood, and their dust made fat with fatness.




Cryptozology)"The coining of the word cryptozoology is often attributed to Belgian-French zoologist Bernard Heuvelmans, though Heuvelmans attributes coinage of the term to the late Scottish explorer and adventurer Ivan T. Sanderson.[6] Heuvelmans' 1955 book On the Track of Unknown Animals traces the scholarly origins of the discipline to Anthonie Cornelis Oudemans and his 1892 study, The Great Sea Serpent.[7] Heuvelmans argued that cryptozoology should be undertaken with scientific rigor, but with an open-minded, interdisciplinary approach. He also stressed that attention should be given to local, urban and folkloric sources regarding such creatures, arguing that while often layered in unlikely and fantastic elements, folktales can have small grains of truth and important information regarding undiscovered organisms." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cryptozoology



hoax?  basking shark? Dinosaur/sea serpent?
 One major argument abandoned by creationist was the breif capture of a dinosaur looking corpse in New Zealand by japanese fisherman.  The crew threw away the corpse for fear of contaminating the load. People in japan were so moved at the time that they made a "dinosaur day holiday in honor of the catch. later it was disissed as a basking shark.  Loosing this argument would not force anything against belif in creation and many YEC's abandoned the argument.  But was there still evidence? 
"Now, one might have expected the person at the centre of this investigation, Michihiko Yano, the biologist on board the boat at the time, would have been present at both meetings, but he was not; he only attended the second meeting. It would appear that the first meeting was the crucial one during which the general approach was discussed. More important, there is no paper by him recounting his first-hand account of the events in this collection of papers. It appears that all his evidence was carefully filtered by his superiors and he is only occasionally referred to in their writings."
" The two authors admit that, due to their specialist subjects, they may not be fully qualified to discuss the classification of the carcass. They continue saying that "the only material providing evidence" is the horny fibres Yano brought back. They contend the photos "are apt to lead to diverse interpretations", and the verbal descriptions and sketch "may have been largely biased or influenced by the observer's preconception."
 "Yano and all the crew members were experienced and would have easily recognised the corpse of a shark and thrown it back. Yet they were baffled by the identity of the carcass. They all gave as accurate a description of it as they could without claiming that it was any particular species - living or extinct. Why should such evidence be dismissed as "biased" when they had no motive to gain from their evidence?. They could not make any money or prestige from the incident as the carcass had been thrown away."
"
John Koster wrote an article that appeared in "Oceans" November 1977. This was also reproduced on the website of the Missouri Association for Creation [10]. His article provided the four clear colour photographs of the carcass that we have used here, and the introduction hoped that readers would "enjoy the article which evolutionists policed from your review". We are grateful to the MAC that they have publicised this important article and particularly the colour photos.
In the article, Koster gives a very objective review of the evidence. Much of it is in favour of the plesiosaur identification, and he gives the following comments by Japanese professors:
"It's not a fish, whale or any other mammal. It's a reptile and the sketch looks very like a plesiosaur". A professor of palaeontology is quoted as saying, "Even if the tissue contains the same protein as the shark's, it is rash to say that the monster is a shark. The finding is not enough to refute a speculation that the monster is a plesiosaur".
"Yano went before a board of three professors who were clearly puzzled by the evidence. Amongst the comments they made were,
    "If this had been a seal, the tail would be too long... If this had been a reptile the number of bones around the neck should be greater according to the drawing... Its easier to survive in the sea than on land. One theory is that the creature is a mammal, and the other that it is a long-necked monster (in other words, a plesiosaur). Within my knowledge it looks like a plesiosaur. But I can't say for sure... If it were a shark, the spine would be smaller, and the neck is too long as shown in the picture. I think we can exclude the fish theory... I don't think it is a fish... If its a reptile, it looks like a plesiosaur. The plesiosaur has fins in the front and back and the neck and tail were not too terribly long."  "

I encourage you to read the article more in depth at http://homepage.ntlworld.com/malcolmbowden/plsfin13.htm
Until then a picture is worth a thousand words....

TYPICAL BASKING SHARK


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SKELETON OF PLESIOSAUR

plesiosaur
Here is a giant 28ft basking shark corpse found on a Rhode Island beach!



                                          http://www.pawnation.com/2013/04/29/28-ft-long-basking-shark-washes-up-on-rhode-island-beach/          
COMPARE THE CORPSE HEAD OF THE BASKING SHARK WITH THE CORPSE FOUND


http://homepage.ntlworld.com/malcolmbowden/YANO4X.jpg

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/malcolmbowden/YANO2X.jpg


http://homepage.ntlworld.com/malcolmbowden/YANO3X.jpg



  For some reason people never connected the dots between this dinosaurs and the many sightings of the lochness monster. "The most common speculation among believers is that the creature represents a line of long-surviving plesiosaurs.[5] Much of the scientific community regards the Loch Ness Monster as a modern-day myth, and explains sightings as including misidentifications of more mundane objects, outright hoaxes, and wishful thinking.[6] Despite this, it remains one of the most famous examples of cryptozoology."https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loch_Ness_Monster


btw, this is not an isolated report of Dino looking sea serpent citing around austrailia
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/10/30/loch-ness-monster-magneti_n_4178347.html

http://i0.huffpost.com/gen/1435627/images/n-NESSIE-OZ-large.jpg


A living dinosaur in Africa?
http://creation.com/images/creation_mag/vol21/8815mokele-mbembe.jpg

"Over the past 100 years, there have been many reports of sightings, in a remote area of central Africa, of a swamp-dwelling animal known to local villagers as ‘mokele-mbembe’—the ‘blocker-of-rivers’.1-7 It is described as living mainly in the water, its size somewhere between that of a hippopotamus and an elephant, but with a squat body and a long neck that enables it to pluck leaves and fruit from plants near the water’s edge. The creature is said to climb the shore at daytime in search of food.8 Witnesses’ drawings show that mokele-mbembe resembles nothing recognisable as still living on Earth, but it does bear a startling likeness to a sauropod dinosaur known to us by its fossil skeletons—similar in shape to a small Apatosaurus.9"
" However, there have been scientific expeditions mounted specifically to find the animal in the swamps that dominate much of Congo, Gabon and Cameroon. University-trained biologist Marcellin Agnagna described what he saw on one such expedition to remote Lake Tele in 1983:
‘At approximately 2:30pm, … [we] were then able to observe a strange animal, with a wide back, a long neck, and a small head. … The animal was located at about 300 metres from the edge of the lake, and we were able to adv[a]nce about 60 metres in the shallow water, placing us at a distance of about 240 metres from the animal, which had become aware of our presence and was looking around as if to determine the source of the noise. Dinkoumbou [a local villager] continued to shout with fear. The f[r]ontal part of the animal was brown, while the back part of the neck appeared black and shone in the sunlight. The animal partly submerged, and remained visible for 20 minutes with only the neck and head above the water. It then submerged completely, … no further sighting of the animal took place. It can be said with certainty that the animal we saw was Mokele-mbembe, that it was quite alive, and, furthermore, that it is known to many inhabitants of the Likouala region [an area of swampland about the same size as Florida]. Its total length from head to back visible above the waterline was estimated at 5 metres.’11
 Mackal R.P., A Living Dinosaur? In Search of Mokele-Mbembe, E.J. Brill, Leiden, The Netherlands, 1987, pp. 10–16, 75–78, 81–82. pp. 312–313
http://creation.com/mokele-mbembe-a-living-dinosaur


"After wandering through the temple and marveling at the twisting fig trees for over an hour, Dinosaur GlyphI finally located the glyph I was searching for near the exit to the complex. Before me, enclosed in a round circle, was a clear depiction of what could only be a stegosaurus.
The creature had a small neck and four short legs with a long tail. Along its humped back, a series of plates were clearly carved. As I stared in a wonder, a guide leading two American tourists approached the spot and casually asked them if they believed dinosaurs lived 800 years ago? He then proudly showed them the stegosaurus carving to their utter amazement." http://unexplainedearth.com/angkor.php



 Romans 8:21 Because the creature itself also shall be delivered from the bondage of corruption into the glorious liberty of the children of God.
22 For we know that the whole creation groaneth and travaileth in pain together until now.
23 And not only they, but ourselves also, which have the firstfruits of the Spirit, even we ourselves groan within ourselves, waiting for the adoption, to wit, the redemption of our body.
24 For we are saved by hope: but hope that is seen is not hope: for what a man seeth, why doth he yet hope for?
25 But if we hope for that we see not, then do we with patience wait for it.
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Isaiah 11: The wolf also shall dwell with the lamb, and the leopard shall lie down with the kid; and the calf and the young lion and the fatling together; and a little child shall lead them.
And the cow and the bear shall feed; their young ones shall lie down together: and the lion shall eat straw like the ox.
And the sucking child shall play on the hole of the asp, and the weaned child shall put his hand on the cockatrice' den.
They shall not hurt nor destroy in all my holy mountain: for the earth shall be full of the knowledge of the Lord, as the waters cover the sea.

As we look at this overview of creation.  We see the impossibility of life from nothing.  We see the technical ingenuousness of every creature.  We understand that for this to be creation there must be a grand creator.  We live in a cursed world and that is all that we can see in our fallen flesh.  But there i hope and restoration when we consider Our Great God and listen to His infallible Word. Do you want the new creation?
Rmemeber His words


 Mark 16: 14 Afterward he appeared unto the eleven as they sat at meat, and upbraided them with their unbelief and hardness of heart, because they believed not them which had seen him after he was risen.
15 And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature.
16 He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.
 Acts 2:  21 And it shall come to pass, that whosoever shall call on the name of the Lord shall be saved.
1 Corinthians 15:44 It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body.
45 And so it is written, The first man Adam was made a living soul; the last Adam was made a quickening spirit.
46 Howbeit that was not first which is spiritual, but that which is natural; and afterward that which is spiritual.
47 The first man is of the earth, earthy; the second man is the Lord from heaven.
48 As is the earthy, such are they also that are earthy: and as is the heavenly, such are they also that are heavenly.
49 And as we have borne the image of the earthy, we shall also bear the image of the heavenly.
50 Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; neither doth corruption inherit incorruption.

1 Corinthians 15: For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures;
And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:" 

Trust in Christ!
In Christ,
Matt

Monday, August 3, 2015

The Fall of Lucifer (NYC pt.6)






 And he said unto them, I beheld Satan as lightning fall from heaven.

 https://tse1.mm.bing.net/th?&id=OIP.Meadcdaac6663ba99942f586b1f297d10o0&w=300&h=300&c=0&pid=1.9&rs=0&p=0

Luke 10:18

What was it like when Jesus saw Satan fall? Was this simply an ecstatic vision?  A spiritual reality? Could this have been an event inside space and time?
    The following is 6th article in the development of the New Year's Cosmology Hypothesis.  In terms of blogging this will be the final segment of the series. It is very important to consult the previous papers to get a footing in the development of this cosmology.
 1. http://biblesmack.blogspot.com/2014/12/a-summary-of-new-years-cosmology.html
2. http://biblesmack.blogspot.com/2014/10/a-scientific-exposition-of-literal.html
3. http://biblesmack.blogspot.com/2014/09/the-purpose-of-general-revelation.html
4. http://biblesmack.blogspot.com/2014/09/singletons-new-years-cosmology.html
5. http://biblesmack.blogspot.com/2014/12/further-study-in-new-years-cosmology.html

  For this particular topic there is a large amount of relevant research found in part 4.







Let us look at the text. 
Luke 10:13 Woe unto thee, Chorazin! woe unto thee, Bethsaida! for if the mighty works had been done in Tyre and Sidon, which have been done in you, they had a great while ago repented, sitting in sackcloth and ashes. 14 But it shall be more tolerable for Tyre and Sidon at the judgment, than for you. 15 And thou, Capernaum, which art exalted to heaven, shalt be thrust down to hell. 16 He that heareth you heareth me; and he that despiseth you despiseth me; and he that despiseth me despiseth him that sent me.
17 And the seventy returned again with joy, saying, Lord, even the devils are subject unto us through thy name. 18 And he said unto them, I beheld Satan as lightning fall from heaven.

 As we see in the context, Jesus is in a stage of Judgement.  He is delivering a Judgement to a culture.  He discusses there exaltation followed by their casting into hell.  We see the shift back into the reality of Of Jesus' disciples joyful over their ability to perform exorcisms.  And then he recalls Satan's fall.  obviously this event is connected to the judgements.  However it is also distinct.



Ezekiel 28:17 Thine heart was lifted up because of thy beauty,
thou hast corrupted thy wisdom by reason of thy brightness:
I will cast thee to the ground,
Isaiah14:12 How art thou fallen from heaven,
O Lucifer, son of the morning!
We see the promises of judgement upon Lucifer.  Ezekiel draws this event back to the time of the garden of Eden.

Job 26:13 By his spirit he hath garnished the heavens;
his hand hath formed the crooked serpent.
This verse is key, the constellation draco is being identified as a crooked serpent which also brings us to the symbolism of satan.

Isaiah 27:1 In that day the Lord with his sore and great and strong sword
shall punish leviathan the piercing serpent,

even leviathan that crooked serpent;
and he shall slay the dragon that is in the sea.
The crooked serpent is understood as the dragon or leviathan.

Revelation 12:And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels, and prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven. And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him. 
 Finally the dragon and serpent are shown to be Satan.  As such we see the ethereal connection  of Satan with the constellation draco.


  While God can do many miracles, they are not all the same.   Sometimes God acts outside of nature like when Jesus changed water into wine.  Other times  God uses nature and we can tell because there are natural effects.   The global flood seems like a natural event because it's effects lasted several days(40) and in centuries in many ways(ice age).   If God acted through nature to produce the Flood, then what ignited it?
 There have been several explanations over time.  Some just leave it at a miracle.  Kent Hovind would argue for asteroids.  Yet why did God form such asteroids?  Walt brown argued for the moons churning of subterranean water.  But wouldn't that make the earth a time Bomb with no regard for the punishment of sin?
As I search for an answer to this mystery I saw an underlying theme right under my nose.
Could it be the fall of Lucifer?

After developing "New Year's Cosmology".  I realized that logically the great flood had to be part of an even greater cosmic catastrophe.  Searching the scriptures we can find hints of this.

Job 9 Then Job answered and said,
I know it is so of a truth:
but how should man be just with God?
If he will contend with him,
he cannot answer him one of a thousand.
He is wise in heart, and mighty in strength:
who hath hardened himself against him, and hath prospered?
Which removeth the mountains, and they know not:
which overturneth them in his anger.
Which shaketh the earth out of her place,
and the pillars thereof tremble.
Which commandeth the sun, and it riseth not;
and sealeth up the stars.
Which alone spreadeth out the heavens,
and treadeth upon the waves of the sea.
Which maketh Arcturus, Orion, and Pleiades,
and the chambers of the south.
10 Which doeth great things past finding out;
yea, and wonders without number.
  Here we see the most ancient book of the Hebrew Bible.  Job lived in a patriarchal period not long after the Great Flood.  He describes God doing powerful actions which have a present tense.  Yet these natural disasters described become supernatural.  If they point to the recent flood, could they not imply an intergalactic catastrophe as well?  Sealing the stars and the sun not rising, alongside mention of the constellations...   This gives us a clue that will merge Biblical and scientific world.

As expressed in earlier articles,  I have come to a geo-centric view of the universe.  The universe is both spinning and tilting around the earth.  But while the universe was always spinning,  it was not always tilting.    Do we have any evidence of a universal tilt or shift?



In the early parts of genesis we see that the rain cycle is not yet active.
Genesis 2: and every plant of the field before it was in the earth, and every herb of the field before it grew: for the Lord God had not caused it to rain upon the earth, and there was not a man to till the ground. But there went up a mist from the earth, and watered the whole face of the ground."
   Now notice that there was not a man to till the ground.  Why?  Because the earth was naturally vegetative before the flood, the ecosystem used to be secure unlike today with the environmental disasters. But this curse upon nature is pronounced at the Fall when the destruction would take place at the flood...
Genesis 3:18 Thorns also and thistles shall it bring forth to thee; and thou shalt eat the herb of the field;
19 In the sweat of thy face shalt thou eat bread, till thou return unto the ground; for out of it wast thou taken: for dust thou art, and unto dust shalt thou return."

genesis 8:
11 In the six hundredth year of Noah’s life, in the second month, the seventeenth day of the month, the same day were all the fountains of the great deep broken up, and the windows of heaven were opened. 12 And the rain was upon the earth forty days and forty nights. 13 In the selfsame day entered Noah, and Shem, and Ham, and Japheth, the sons of Noah, and Noah’s wife, and the three wives of his sons with them, into the ark;
  The windows of heaven must have been closed first; thus implying the canopy was in place and then broken up.  Understanding the nature of the earth's magnetic field as well as the fact that when we consider Mach's physics.  We realize that the universe must be interconnected together.  So we signs pointing us to an intergalactic catastrophe that ignited the flood.

Genesis  9:
11 And I will establish my covenant with you; neither shall all flesh be cut off any more by the waters of a flood; neither shall there any more be a flood to destroy the earth. 12 And God said, This is the token of the covenant which I make between me and you and every living creature that is with you, for perpetual generations: 13 I do set my bow in the cloud, and it shall be for a token of a covenant between me and the earth. 14 And it shall come to pass, when I bring a cloud over the earth, that the bow shall be seen in the cloud: 15 and I will remember my covenant, which is between me and you and every living creature of all flesh; and the waters shall no more become a flood to destroy all flesh. 16 And the bow shall be in the cloud; and I will look upon it, that I may remember the everlasting covenant between God and every living creature of all flesh that is upon the earth. 17 And God said unto Noah, This is the token of the covenant, which I have established between me and all flesh that is upon the earth."
  The rainbow is a regular scientific occurrence today.  But for it to be such an unusual sign would imply that the rain cycle was previously unsusual.
Modern science has attributed seasonal changes to a tilting of the earth.   New Geocentrists would argue that is the universe as opposed to the earth which tilts.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2366087/Expert-claims-massive-tilting-universe-admit-NO-idea-is.html
"Scientists have started to look more carefully at the structure of the universe by analyzing light from distant galaxies to look at the speed and direction of moving objects like planets and stars.
They have observed that rather than moving apart as expected, some distant clusters of galaxies actually appear to be caught in a space current, much like a river."
"And they are moving at incredibly fast velocities or around two million miles an hour, along a certain path.
Scientists are unsure why but have labeled the phenomenon 'dark flow'.
To work out why this must be happening, Glenn said scientists believe there must be 'something huge out there.'
'It would have to be so large that it is bigger than anything scientists have seen in the known universe before.'
Glenn added that it could be so massive it could dwarf galactic clusters, which could be drawn towards it as if the huge object were a giant space vacuum cleaner."

So if the universe is tilting, the start of that tilt could have caused an intergalactic catastrophe. So as the spinning universe tilted, it would have easily left damage that would eventually destroy the ecosystem of the ancient world.  In fact all of our supernovas can fit in the young earth paradigm.  which clues us in to a possible connection.
" According to their model, the SNR should reach a diameter of about 300 light years3 after 120,000 years. So if our galaxy was billions of years old, we should be able to observe many SNRs this size. But if our galaxy is 6,000–10,000 years old, no SNRs would have had time to reach this size. So the number of observed SNRs of a particular size is an excellent test of whether the galaxy is old or young. In fact, the results are consistent with a universe thousands of years old, but are a puzzle if the universe has existed for billions of years. The conclusions can be seen from the simple table shown below:
Supernova
Remnant Stage
Number of observable SNRs predicted if our galaxy were… Number of SNRs actually observed
… billions of years old … 7000 years old
First 2 2 5
Second 2260 125 200
Third 5000 0 0
As can be readily seen above, a young universe model fits the data of the low number of observed SNRs. If the universe was really billions of years old, there are 7000 missing SNRs in our galaxy." dr. Jonathon Sarfati http://creation.com/exploding-stars-point-to-a-young-universe


  As we looked at the "Fall of Lucifer" one wonders what lucifer falling like lightning in a physical event would be in the world of physical science.
http://www.livescience.com/49040-gamma-ray-burst-mass-extinction.html
"
 Now the report shows that with all the potential destruction, the atmosphere would usually deflect such energy.
  However in the Biblical paradigm we know the electromagnetic north pole was of a greater attraction.

Scientists going by the evolutionary assumptions have found evidence of the earth being hit by gamma ray bursters. Japanese scientist based this upon their examination of ancient tree rings. "Carbon's key radioactive isotope, carbon-14, forms when energetic particles enter Earth's atmosphere and collide with nitrogen atoms. Since trees take in both carbon-14 and its stable relative, carbon-12, the relative levels of carbon-14 in their growth rings give scientists a way of measuring the amount of high-energy particles entering Earth's atmosphere in a given year."http://www.popsci.com/science/article/2013-01/huge-burst-gamma-rays-hit-earth-and-no-one-noticed
This may be evidence of "the fall of Lucifer" or at least proof of it's plausibility.


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"Polaris, the brightest star in the constellation, is a yellow-white supergiant and brightest Cepheid variable star in the night sky, ranging from apparent magnitude 1.97 to 2.00. Beta Ursae Minoris, also known as Kochab, is only slightly fainter, with its apparent magnitude of 2.08. An ageing star that has swollen and cooled to become an orange giant, it was found in 2014 to have a planet orbiting it. It and magnitude 3 Gamma Ursae Minoris have been called the 'guardians of the pole star'. Three other stellar systems have been discovered to contain planets. The constellation also contains an isolated neutron starCalvera—and H1504+65, the hottest white dwarf yet discovered with a surface temperature of 200,00 K."
"In astronomy Calvera is the nickname—based on the villain in the 1960 film The Magnificent Seven—of an X-ray source known as 1RXS J141256.0+792204 in the ROSAT All-Sky Survey Bright Source Catalog (RASS/BSC). It lies in the constellation Ursa Minor and is identified as an isolated neutron star.[1] It is one of the closest of its kind to Earth.[2]"
http://i.space.com/images/i/000/024/121/i02/polaris-north-star.jpg?1354303066

http://www.space.com/4247-astronomers-find-closest-neutron-star.html
"Neutron stars are supernova leftovers that are too small to form black holes. Instead, the leftover gas and dust crams into a glowing, incredibly dense body only a few miles wide--a teaspoon, for example, would weigh millions of tons. A study of the newly discovered neutron star will be detailed in an upcoming edition of the Astrophysical Journal."

A selection of memorable images taken by the Hubble Space Telescope of our universe

July 2009: The Barred Spiral Galaxy (NGC 6217) in the Ursa Minor constellation Picture: NASA





Here are some photos to help us see an illustration of what the fall of lucifer might look like....

 





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All hel breaks loose..... 
Some cosmologist have started to investigate mythology. It is is suspected that the ancient tales are actually fanciful versions of actual catastrophes and crises.
"In the Poetic Edda, Prose Edda, and Heimskringla, Hel is referred to as a daughter of Loki, and to "go to Hel" is to die. In the Prose Edda book Gylfaginning, Hel is described as having been appointed by the god Odin as ruler of a realm of the same name, located in Niflheim. In the same source, her appearance is described as half blue and half flesh-coloured and further as having a gloomy, downcast appearance. The Prose Edda details that Hel rules over vast mansions with many servants in her underworld realm and plays a key role in the attempted resurrection of the god Baldr."
" High says that Odin sent the gods to gather the children and bring them to him. Upon their arrival, Odin threw Jörmungandr into "that deep sea that lies round all lands," Odin threw Hel into Niflheim, and bestowed upon her authority over nine worlds, in that she must "administer board and lodging to those sent to her, and that is those who die of sickness or old age."
" n Norse mythology, Jörmungandr (Old Norse: Jǫrmungandr, pronounced [ˈjɔrmuŋɡandr̥], meaning "huge monster"[1]), often written as Jormungand, or Jörmungand and also known as the Midgard Serpent (Old Norse: Miðgarðsormr), or World Serpent, is a sea serpent, the middle child of the giantess Angrboða and Loki. According to the Prose Edda, Odin took Loki's three children by Angrboða, the wolf Fenrir, Hel, and Jörmungandr, and tossed Jörmungandr into the great ocean that encircles Midgard.[2] The serpent grew so large that he was able to surround the earth and grasp his own tail.[2] As a result, he received the name of the Midgard Serpent or World Serpent. When he lets go, the world will end. Jörmungandr's arch-enemy is the god Thor. It is an example of an ouroboros."


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Subterranean waters)
"Ok, maybe we're jumping the gun. (A lot.) But according to research leader Graham Pearson, he and his team discovered a rare mineral that suggests a reservoir may exist 250-375 miles beneath the Earth's surface, below the crust."http://www.thewire.com/global/2014/03/massive-subterannean-reservoir/359108/ 
 http://gizmodo.com/the-planets-biggest-water-supply-might-be-hidden-400-mi-1590063135

 http://www.thelivingmoon.com/45jack_files/03files/Endangered_Earth_Huge_Underground_Ocean.html"
 By Ker Than, LiveScience Staff Writer
posted: 28 February 2007 01:28 pm ET
Scientists scanning the deep interior of Earth have found evidence of a vast water reservoir beneath eastern Asia that is at least the volume of the Arctic Ocean.

They also found subterranean water in a mine 2 miles deep in a South African mine. 
"The scientists analyzed water they found 2 miles (2.4 km) deep."..."Sherwood Lollar said. "You could still see some of the same pillow lava structures now seen on the bottom of the ocean."..."This ancient water poured out of the boreholes the team drilled in the mine at the rate of nearly a half-gallon (2 liters) per minute. It remains uncertain precisely how large this reservoir of water is."http://science.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/05/15/18278807-oldest-water-on-earth-found-deep-underground?lite
The deepest borehole on earth for many years was the kola super deep borehole
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nlePYqnilww
they were shocked to find water 7 km down.
        https://seanduke.files.wordpress.com/2011/02/mid-atlantic-ridge.jpg
Iceland:"In geological terms, Iceland is a young island. It started to form in the Miocene era about 20 million years ago from a series of volcanic eruptions on the Mid-Atlantic Ridge, where it lies between the North American and Eurasian plates."https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Iceland
  Even in evolutionary terms Iceland had a catastrophic beginning of a volcanic eruption.  I believe this may be the bridge from the Gamma ray burst-er to igniting the great flood.


chalk aftermath
Chalk beds of southern England
Figure1. The chalk beds of southern England (above) can be traced across
France, Germany, and Poland, all the way to the Middle East.
Derek Ager noted chalk deposits laid down over most of the continents, indicating they are the result of a single catastrophic event. Concerning these widespread deposits, Snelling says,

“The Cretaceous chalk beds of southern England are well known because they appear as spectacular white cliffs along the coast (Figure 1). These chalk beds can be traced westward across England and appear again in Northern Ireland. In the opposite direction, these same chalk beds can be traced across France, the Netherlands, Germany, Poland, southern Scandinavia, and other parts of Europe to Turkey, then to Israel and Egypt in the Middle East, and even as far as Kazakhstan.
“Remarkably, the same chalk beds with the same fossils and the same distinctive strata above and below them are also found in the Midwest USA, from Nebraska in the north to Texas in the south. They also appear in the Perth Basin of Western Australia….”http://www.creationinthecrossfire.org/Articles/Evidences%20for%20the%20Flood/Evidence%20number%203.html [By Jon Covey, BA, CLS(ASCP)
Edited by Anita Millen, MD, MPH, MA
Dr. Andrew Snelling wrote a terrific six-part series on geological evidence for the Flood, which was published in Answers Magazine during 2008-09 If you aren’t getting this publication, you are missing out on a very informative and entertaining full-color creationist magazine for the entire family. Visit www.answersingenesis.org or call (800)778-3390 to order a subscription.] also http://www.researchgate.net/publication/252866998_The_New_Catastrophism  
  At this point my cosmology would follow close in line with the Hovind theory and the hydro-plate theory. the subterranean waters would supply the water for the flood while the ice-canopy helped to spread the jets to create 40 days of rain. 
http://biblesmack.blogspot.com/2012/11/lets-put-canopy-back-up-defense-of.html 
http://biblesmack.blogspot.com/2014/07/evidence-of-world-wide-global-flood.html  

 As we wrap up this series.  We see the devastation that has been caused in our world and even universe from Evil. Lucifer lead the fall.  Though it was Adam which handed over dominion to Him in the fall.  Yet Lucifer fell as Christ arose.

Hebrews 2:6 But one in a certain place testified, saying, What is man, that thou art mindful of him? or the son of man that thou visitest him?
Thou madest him a little lower than the angels; thou crownedst him with glory and honour, and didst set him over the works of thy hands:
Thou hast put all things in subjection under his feet. For in that he put all in subjection under him, he left nothing that is not put under him. But now we see not yet all things put under him.
But we see Jesus, who was made a little lower than the angels for the suffering of death, crowned with glory and honour; that he by the grace of God should taste death for every man.
10 For it became him, for whom are all things, and by whom are all things, in bringing many sons unto glory, to make the captain of their salvation perfect through sufferings.
11 For both he that sanctifieth and they who are sanctified are all of one: for which cause he is not ashamed to call them brethren,
12 Saying, I will declare thy name unto my brethren, in the midst of the church will I sing praise unto thee.
13 And again, I will put my trust in him. And again, Behold I and the children which God hath given me.
14 Forasmuch then as the children are partakers of flesh and blood, he also himself likewise took part of the same; that through death he might destroy him that had the power of death, that is, the devil;
15 And deliver them who through fear of death were all their lifetime subject to bondage.
16 For verily he took not on him the nature of angels; but he took on him the seed of Abraham.
17 Wherefore in all things it behoved him to be made like unto his brethren, that he might be a merciful and faithful high priest in things pertaining to God, to make reconciliation for the sins of the people.
18 For in that he himself hath suffered being tempted, he is able to succour them that are tempted."
You may have been tempted and confused by Lucifer in this life.  you may have failed in times of temptation. I know I have.  But we have a Savior Christ Jesus! He will save you and redeem you and adopt you into his family if you will trust him.

Hebrews 6:17 Wherein God, willing more abundantly to shew unto the heirs of promise the immutability of his counsel, confirmed it by an oath:
18 That by two immutable things, in which it was impossible for God to lie, we might have a strong consolation, who have fled for refuge to lay hold upon the hope set before us:
19 Which hope we have as an anchor of the soul, both sure and stedfast, and which entereth into that within the veil;

Hebrews 10: 22 Let us draw near with a true heart in full assurance of faith, having our hearts sprinkled from an evil conscience, and our bodies washed with pure water.
23 Let us hold fast the profession of our faith without wavering; (for he is faithful that promised;)"